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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	cluster-devel <cluster-devel@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com
Subject: Re: [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:19:40 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wgP058PNY8eoWW=5uRMox-PuesDMrLsrCWPS+xXhzbQxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXCbv5gdfEEtAYo8@arm.com>

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 12:44 PM Catalin Marinas
<catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> However, with MTE doing both get_user() every 16 bytes and
> gup can get pretty expensive.

So I really think that anything that is performance-critical had
better only do the "fault_in_write()" code path in the cold error path
where you took a page fault.

IOW, the loop structure should be


     repeat:
                take_locks();
                pagefault_disable();
                ret = do_things_with_locks();
                pagefault_enable();
                release_locks();

                // Failure path?
                if (unlikely(ret == -EFAULT)) {
                        if (fault_in_writable(..))
                                goto repeat;
                        return -EFAULT;
                }

rather than have it be some kind of "first do fault_in_writable(),
then do the work" model.

So I wouldn't worry too much about the performance concerns. It simply
shouldn't be a common or hot path.

And yes, I've seen code that does that "fault_in_xyz()" before the
critical operation that cannot take page faults, and does it
unconditionally.

But then it isn't the "fault_in_xyz()" that should be blamed if it is
slow, but the caller that does things the wrong way around.

            Linus

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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-19 13:41 [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 01/17] iov_iter: Fix iov_iter_get_pages{, _alloc} page fault return value Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 02/17] powerpc/kvm: Fix kvm_use_magic_page Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 03/17] gup: Turn fault_in_pages_{readable, writeable} into fault_in_{readable, writeable} Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 04/17] iov_iter: Turn iov_iter_fault_in_readable into fault_in_iov_iter_readable Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 05/17] iov_iter: Introduce fault_in_iov_iter_writeable Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-20 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 06/17] gfs2: Add wrapper for iomap_file_buffered_write Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 07/17] gfs2: Clean up function may_grant Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 08/17] gfs2: Introduce flag for glock holder auto-demotion Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 09/17] gfs2: Move the inode glock locking to gfs2_file_buffered_write Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 10/17] gfs2: Eliminate ip->i_gh Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 11/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks for buffered I/O Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:41 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 12/17] iomap: Fix iomap_dio_rw return value for user copies Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 13/17] iomap: Support partial direct I/O on user copy failures Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 14/17] iomap: Add done_before argument to iomap_dio_rw Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 15:51   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-19 19:30     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-20  1:57       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 15/17] gup: Introduce FOLL_NOFAULT flag to disable page faults Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 16/17] iov_iter: Introduce nofault " Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 13:42 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 17/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks for direct I/O Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-19 15:40 ` [Ocfs2-devel] [PATCH v8 00/17] gfs2: Fix mmap + page fault deadlocks Linus Torvalds
2021-10-19 16:00   ` Bob Peterson
2021-10-20 16:36   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-20 20:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-20 22:44       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-21  6:19         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-10-22 18:06           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-22 19:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-25 19:00               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-26 18:24                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-26 18:50                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-26 19:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-27 19:13                     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-27 21:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-28 21:20                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 21:40                           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 22:15                           ` Andreas Grünbacher
2021-10-29 12:50                             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-28 22:32                           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-29 17:50                             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-10-29 18:47                               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-25 18:24             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-26  5:12               ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-10-26  9:44               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2021-10-27 21:21               ` Andreas Gruenbacher

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