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From: Zev Weiss <zweiss@equinix.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/14] docs: hwmon: Document PECI drivers
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 17:52:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210804175203.GY8018@packtop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ea5621698508a800cea59b5533f8845b9f0befc6.camel@intel.com>

On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 06:37:30AM CDT, Winiarska, Iwona wrote:
>On Tue, 2021-07-27 at 22:58 +0000, Zev Weiss wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 05:04:46PM CDT, Iwona Winiarska wrote:
>> > From: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@linux.intel.com>
>> >
>> > Add documentation for peci-cputemp driver that provides DTS thermal
>> > readings for CPU packages and CPU cores and peci-dimmtemp driver that
>> > provides DTS thermal readings for DIMMs.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@linux.intel.com>
>> > Co-developed-by: Iwona Winiarska <iwona.winiarska@intel.com>
>> > Signed-off-by: Iwona Winiarska <iwona.winiarska@intel.com>
>> > Reviewed-by: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
>> > ---
>> > Documentation/hwmon/index.rst         |  2 +
>> > Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst  | 93 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > Documentation/hwmon/peci-dimmtemp.rst | 58 +++++++++++++++++
>> > MAINTAINERS                           |  2 +
>> > 4 files changed, 155 insertions(+)
>> > create mode 100644 Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
>> > create mode 100644 Documentation/hwmon/peci-dimmtemp.rst
>> >
>> > diff --git a/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst b/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst
>> > index bc01601ea81a..cc76b5b3f791 100644
>> > --- a/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst
>> > +++ b/Documentation/hwmon/index.rst
>> > @@ -154,6 +154,8 @@ Hardware Monitoring Kernel Drivers
>> >    pcf8591
>> >    pim4328
>> >    pm6764tr
>> > +   peci-cputemp
>> > +   peci-dimmtemp
>> >    pmbus
>> >    powr1220
>> >    pxe1610
>> > diff --git a/Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
>> > b/Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
>> > new file mode 100644
>> > index 000000000000..d3a218ba810a
>> > --- /dev/null
>> > +++ b/Documentation/hwmon/peci-cputemp.rst
>> > @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@
>> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
>> > +
>> > +Kernel driver peci-cputemp
>> > +==========================
>> > +
>> > +Supported chips:
>> > +       One of Intel server CPUs listed below which is connected to a PECI
>> > bus.
>> > +               * Intel Xeon E5/E7 v3 server processors
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-14xx v3 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-24xx v3 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-16xx v3 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-26xx v3 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-46xx v3 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E7-48xx v3 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E7-88xx v3 family
>> > +               * Intel Xeon E5/E7 v4 server processors
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-16xx v4 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-26xx v4 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E5-46xx v4 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E7-48xx v4 family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon E7-88xx v4 family
>> > +               * Intel Xeon Scalable server processors
>> > +                       Intel Xeon D family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon Bronze family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon Silver family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon Gold family
>> > +                       Intel Xeon Platinum family
>> > +
>> > +       Datasheet: Available from http://www.intel.com/design/literature.htm
>> > +
>> > +Author: Jae Hyun Yoo <jae.hyun.yoo@linux.intel.com>
>> > +
>> > +Description
>> > +-----------
>> > +
>> > +This driver implements a generic PECI hwmon feature which provides Digital
>> > +Thermal Sensor (DTS) thermal readings of the CPU package and CPU cores that
>> > are
>> > +accessible via the processor PECI interface.
>> > +
>> > +All temperature values are given in millidegree Celsius and will be
>> > measurable
>> > +only when the target CPU is powered on.
>> > +
>> > +Sysfs interface
>> > +-------------------
>> > +
>> > +=======================
>> > =======================================================
>> > +temp1_label            "Die"
>> > +temp1_input            Provides current die temperature of the CPU package.
>> > +temp1_max              Provides thermal control temperature of the CPU
>> > package
>> > +                       which is also known as Tcontrol.
>> > +temp1_crit             Provides shutdown temperature of the CPU package
>> > which
>> > +                       is also known as the maximum processor junction
>> > +                       temperature, Tjmax or Tprochot.
>> > +temp1_crit_hyst                Provides the hysteresis value from Tcontrol
>> > to Tjmax of
>> > +                       the CPU package.
>> > +
>> > +temp2_label            "DTS"
>> > +temp2_input            Provides current DTS temperature of the CPU package.
>>
>> Would this be a good place to note the slightly counter-intuitive nature
>> of DTS readings?  i.e. add something along the lines of "The DTS sensor
>> produces a delta relative to Tjmax, so negative values are normal and
>> values approaching zero are hot."  (In my experience people who aren't
>> already familiar with it tend to think something's wrong when a CPU
>> temperature reading shows -50C.)
>
>I believe that what you're referring to is a result of "GetTemp", and we're
>using it to calculate "Die" sensor values (temp1).
>The sensor value is absolute - we don't expose "raw" thermal sensor value
>(delta) anywhere.
>
>DTS sensor is exposing temperature value scaled to fit DTS 2.0 thermal profile:
>https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/xeon/scalable/xeon-scalable-thermal-guide.html
>(section 5.2.3.2)
>
>Similar to "Die" sensor - it's also exposed in absolute form.
>
>I'll try to change description to avoid confusion.
>

When I tested the patch series by applying it to my OpenBMC kernel, the
temp2_input sysfs file produced negative numbers (as has been the case
with previous iterations of the PECI patchset).  Is that expected?  From
what Guenter has said it sounds like that's going to need to change so
that the temperature readings are all in "normal" millidegrees C
(that is, relative to the freezing point of water).


Zev

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-04 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-12 22:04 [PATCH 00/14] Introduce PECI subsystem Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 01/14] x86/cpu: Move intel-family to arch-independent headers Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-14 16:54   ` Williams, Dan J
2021-07-15 16:47     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-15 18:13       ` Dan Williams
2021-07-15 18:29         ` Luck, Tony
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 02/14] x86/cpu: Extract cpuid helpers to arch-independent Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-14 16:58   ` Williams, Dan J
2021-07-15 16:51     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-15 16:58       ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 03/14] dt-bindings: Add generic bindings for PECI Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 04/14] dt-bindings: Add bindings for peci-aspeed Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-15 16:28   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-16 21:22     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 05/14] ARM: dts: aspeed: Add PECI controller nodes Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 06/14] peci: Add core infrastructure Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-14 17:19   ` Williams, Dan J
2021-07-16 21:08     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-16 21:50       ` Dan Williams
2021-07-17  6:12         ` gregkh
2021-07-17 20:54           ` Dan Williams
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 07/14] peci: Add peci-aspeed controller driver Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-13  5:02   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-07-15 16:42     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-14 17:39   ` Williams, Dan J
2021-07-16 21:17     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-27  8:49   ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-29 14:03     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-29 18:15       ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 08/14] peci: Add device detection Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-14 21:05   ` Williams, Dan J
2021-07-16 21:20     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-27 17:49   ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-29 18:55     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-29 20:50       ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-30 20:10         ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 09/14] peci: Add support for PECI device drivers Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-27 20:10   ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-27 21:23     ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-29 21:17     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-29 23:22       ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-30 20:13         ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 10/14] peci: Add peci-cpu driver Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-27 11:16   ` David Müller (ELSOFT AG)
2021-07-30 20:14     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-27 21:33   ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-30 21:21     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 11/14] hwmon: peci: Add cputemp driver Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-15 17:45   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-19 20:12     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-19 20:35       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-27  7:06   ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-30 21:51     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-30 22:04       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 12/14] hwmon: peci: Add dimmtemp driver Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-15 17:56   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-19 20:31     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-19 20:36       ` Guenter Roeck
2021-07-26 22:08   ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-30 22:48     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 13/14] docs: hwmon: Document PECI drivers Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-27 22:58   ` Zev Weiss
2021-07-28  0:49     ` Guenter Roeck
2021-08-02 11:39       ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-08-02 11:37     ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-08-04 17:52       ` Zev Weiss [this message]
2021-08-04 18:05         ` Guenter Roeck
2021-08-05 21:42           ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-12 22:04 ` [PATCH 14/14] docs: Add PECI documentation Iwona Winiarska
2021-07-14 16:51 ` [PATCH 00/14] Introduce PECI subsystem Williams, Dan J
2021-07-15 17:33   ` Winiarska, Iwona
2021-07-15 19:34     ` Dan Williams

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