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Wed, 26 May 2021 18:59:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from demeter.local (unknown [9.160.61.45]) by b03ledav003.gho.boulder.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 26 May 2021 18:59:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Security Working Group - Wednesday May 26 - results From: Joseph Reynolds To: openbmc References: <8b3c88c2-cc9f-3ebe-2e4d-61974ae27519@linux.ibm.com> Message-ID: <30dde28a-38ff-6c59-57f4-23ed3fb46130@linux.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 13:59:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 In-Reply-To: <8b3c88c2-cc9f-3ebe-2e4d-61974ae27519@linux.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-Proofpoint-GUID: _3eEO5K35b3xNGp3TV4u32f3mZF9CI9o X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: _3eEO5K35b3xNGp3TV4u32f3mZF9CI9o Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Proofpoint-UnRewURL: 0 URL was un-rewritten MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.391, 18.0.761 definitions=2021-05-26_11:2021-05-26, 2021-05-26 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=802 lowpriorityscore=0 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 clxscore=1015 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104190000 definitions=main-2105260122 X-BeenThere: openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Development list for OpenBMC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: openbmc-bounces+openbmc=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "openbmc" On 5/26/21 8:43 AM, Joseph Reynolds wrote: > This is a reminder of the OpenBMC Security Working Group meeting > scheduled for this Wednesday May 26 at 10:00am PDT. > > We'll discuss the following items on the agenda > , > and anything else that comes up: > Bonus topic 0: We overviewed OpenBMC's security assurance documentation at the start of the meeting. > 1. Followup from last meeting re uboot, kexec, sysrq-trigger on ARM > architecture. We re-hashed the discussion, added new information, and added new concerns. > 2. Interest in reviewing TLS protocols supported? Yes.  We discussed CBC ciphers and HMACs.  Should we disable client renegotiation? Then we re-hashed the discussion about the HTTPS self-signed certificate 10 year duration. Items added after the agenda was emailed: 3. user-manager: authentication & password management helper for netipmid and bmcweb for non-root environment to drop direct PAM use. Privilege separation and Master processes to handle users’ sessions DISCUSSION: Idea: Forward all authentication & password change & account change requests to user-manager which would then need to be enhanced to check authority when a request is made.  Then phosphor-user-manager would need root-like authority or a Linux capability to use PAM to change any user’s password. Does phosphor-user-manager also need to be (or work in tandem with) a session manager?  Then we can remove session management from IPMI network and from BMCWeb, which would be modified to use user-manager. Also consider how session-less unauthenticated host-IPMI would work. - Joseph > > > Access, agenda and notes are in the wiki: > https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc/wiki/Security-working-group > > > - Joseph