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Hi Kurt,

I had similar feelings about the survey, it didn't quite capture my
sentiment.  For me, it's more that I have set up IRC, but the OpenBMC
project is my only use case for IRC.  With so many communication channels,
IRC seems to fall to the background.  It's also hard to review past
activity in IRC, other tools like slack make it much easier to look at
threads retrospectively.

Thanks!


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 6:45 AM krtaylor <kurt.r.taylor@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/23/20 9:58 PM, Joseph Reynolds wrote:
> > On 9/23/20 2:48 PM, krtaylor wrote:
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> I am doing a survey. If you DO NOT use IRC, would you start
> >> communicating regularly with the community if we used a different
> >> messaging platform? Maybe some other reason?
> >>
> >> I am not suggesting anything at the moment, just looking at ways to
> >> remove any communication barriers and improve open designs and
> >> development.
> >>
> >> If you DO NOT USE IRC regularly, please follow this link for a short
> >> survey. It is completely anonymous and will remain open until 12:00pm
> >> Central, Monday September 28th.
> >
> > Hi Kurt.  Thanks for trying to improve communication within the OpenBMC
> > community.
> >
> > I was confused by the survey and did not submit my answers.  I use the
> > IRC (per [1]) but sometimes go days without reading, and rarely
>
> Thanks for the question - I could have been more clear about "regular
> use", and in the survey I do say that a bit better.
>
>  From your description, I would say that you are not a regular user of
> IRC. That is, you do your work without periodically discussing it in
> IRC, and are not actively participating in others work and design
> discussions. Absolutely no judgement here, this is a common situation
> that we can hopefully address and facilitate for other developers.
>
> Please feel free to take the survey, the feedback will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
>
> > respond.  I find IRC setup confusing, but easy enough to use.  And I
> > would prefer to use slack features such as a full conversation history
> > and threaded conversations.
> >
> > - Joseph
> >
> > [1]: https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc#contact
> >
> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/33BVDR6
> >>
> >> THANKS!
> >>
> >> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
> >
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kurt,<div><br></div><div>I had similar feelings about t=
he survey, it didn&#39;t quite capture my sentiment.=C2=A0 For me, it&#39;s=
 more that I have set up IRC, but the OpenBMC project is my only use case f=
or IRC.=C2=A0 With so many communication channels, IRC seems to fall to the=
 background.=C2=A0 It&#39;s also hard to review past activity in IRC, other=
 tools like slack make it much easier to look at threads retrospectively.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at=
 6:45 AM krtaylor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kurt.r.taylor@gmail.com">kurt.r.tay=
lor@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex">On 9/23/20 9:58 PM, Joseph Reynolds wrote:<br>
&gt; On 9/23/20 2:48 PM, krtaylor wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Hello everyone,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I am doing a survey. If you DO NOT use IRC, would you start <br>
&gt;&gt; communicating regularly with the community if we used a different =
<br>
&gt;&gt; messaging platform? Maybe some other reason?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I am not suggesting anything at the moment, just looking at ways t=
o <br>
&gt;&gt; remove any communication barriers and improve open designs and <br=
>
&gt;&gt; development.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; If you DO NOT USE IRC regularly, please follow this link for a sho=
rt <br>
&gt;&gt; survey. It is completely anonymous and will remain open until 12:0=
0pm <br>
&gt;&gt; Central, Monday September 28th.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hi Kurt.=C2=A0 Thanks for trying to improve communication within the O=
penBMC <br>
&gt; community.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I was confused by the survey and did not submit my answers.=C2=A0 I us=
e the <br>
&gt; IRC (per [1]) but sometimes go days without reading, and rarely <br>
<br>
Thanks for the question - I could have been more clear about &quot;regular =
<br>
use&quot;, and in the survey I do say that a bit better.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0From your description, I would say that you are not a regular user of=
 <br>
IRC. That is, you do your work without periodically discussing it in <br>
IRC, and are not actively participating in others work and design <br>
discussions. Absolutely no judgement here, this is a common situation <br>
that we can hopefully address and facilitate for other developers.<br>
<br>
Please feel free to take the survey, the feedback will be very much <br>
appreciated.<br>
<br>
Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)<br>
<br>
&gt; respond.=C2=A0 I find IRC setup confusing, but easy enough to use.=C2=
=A0 And I <br>
&gt; would prefer to use slack features such as a full conversation history=
 <br>
&gt; and threaded conversations.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; - Joseph<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; [1]: <a href=3D"https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc#contact" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/openbmc/openbmc#contact</a><b=
r>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/33BVDR6" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/33BVDR6</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; THANKS!<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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