From: Shyam Sundar S K <Shyam-sundar.S-k@amd.com>
To: "Limonciello, Mario" <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
markgross@kernel.org
Cc: platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, Patil.Reddy@amd.com,
Mark Pearson <markpearson@lenovo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 13/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Handle AMT and CQL events for Auto mode
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 23:10:57 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <194be06e-5831-eb0e-5018-61f1cfcf9912@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bab60716-a19c-ffaf-81f5-d26bc8f2f6f3@amd.com>
Hi Mario,
On 7/29/2022 9:13 PM, Limonciello, Mario wrote:
> On 7/29/2022 06:03, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So as for the AMT mode, since that is Lenovo only, I guess that means
>>>> that there is no need to do call amd_pmf_update_slider() when AMT
>>>> is being disabled since at this point the firmware will have
>>>> already set the values.
>>>
>>> Yeah, Shyam made this modification for v2 to make sure that code path
>>> isn't called unless static slider was set in the BIOS.
>>
>> But this code path is only hit when AMT / auto mode is available and
>> when that is true then the static slider should never be set in the BIOS
>> so the whole amd_pmf_update_slider() call on AMT disable can simply
>> be dropped AFAICT.
>
> The reason to leave it in place but guarded like this is for validation
> of the feature behaves properly from AMD internal systems AMD test BIOS.
> It can be used to prove out something works properly without needing to
> include extra drivers and software.
Yes. We will need this path to check on the internal CRB system to
validate the 'auto mode'. Whenever the amd-pmf driver gets the AMT
disable event we shall disable the power-settings w.r.t to 'auto mode'.
I moved the handling to amd_pmf_reset_amt() based on Hans review
remarks, and its guarded with a if() check, so that we accidentally
don't land up in updating the static slider.
Also left a note on the same function, so that it provides some
information on why the logic is being done in that way.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually this seems to mean that we must ensure that the AMD-PMF
>>>> code stops touching these settings as soon as the event is received.
>>>>
>>>> Which would imply killing the periodic work when an AMT off event
>>>> is received from within the event handling and then restating it
>>>> when AMT is on (and making sure the work being queued or not state
>>>> matches the AMT on/off state at driver probe time) ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> At first glance this seems plausible, but actually I think it should
>>> stay as is because CQL thermals can be set at any time (that's like a
>>> lap mode sensor event from thinkpad_acpi). Even when AMT is turned
>>> off, you may want the CQL thermal profile set accordingly.
>>
>> So the CQL code is to handle lapmode when AMT is active. But I would
>> expect the firmware to update the power-limits, etc. for lapmode itself
>> when in performance mode. >
>> The amd_pmf_update_2_cql() function only does things when
>> config_store.current_mode == AUTO_PERFORMANCE (or
>> AUTO_PERFORMANCE_ON_LAP)
>>
>> And that reflects the last mode selected by the auto/AMT mode code, not
>> the mode actual set by thinkpad_acpi so if the last auto selected mode
>> was balanced and then AMT gets disabled because thinkpad_acpi switches
>> to performance mode, then on CQL events after the switch
>> amd_pmf_update_2_cql()
>> will not do anything.
>>
>> To me it seems that when AMT is off the AMD-PMF code should not touch
>> the power-limits, etc. at all and thus it should also always ignore
>> CQL events when AMT is off.
>>
>> This assumes that the firmware takes care of udating the limits for
>> on lap / off lap when thinkpad_acpi's profile is set to performance.
>
> Where does this assumption come from? I guess that's how it's done on
> Lenovo's Intel systems?
>
> AMT and CQL is a new feature on Lenovo AMD systems, this is the way that
> it's supposed to be done here.
Yes, this was newly designed for Lenovo AMD systems. The behavior is
same on windows too (atleast on the RMB laptops today) .
When the system is running in 'auto-mode performance' and the user keeps
the system on his lap, amd-pmf driver receives a 'CQL' event from Lenovo
BIOS. In this case, the amd-pmf driver shall apply thermal limits w.r.t
to 'auto-mode performance-on-lap' and not 'auto-mode performance'.
>
>>
>> If thinkpad_acpi does not do this then the AMD-PMF code should
>> check what mode has been selected by the thinkpad_acpi code in
>> amd_pmf_update_2_cql() when AMT is off.
>>
>
> It is up to the firmware (and thinkpad_acpi) to decide when to send
> the CQL events.
>
> Shyam - any comments here?
Yes, I agree with Mario here.
Thanks,
Shyam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-29 17:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-12 14:58 [PATCH v1 00/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Introduce AMD PMF Driver Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 01/15] ACPI: platform_profile: Add support for notification chains Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-12 15:03 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-07-27 13:24 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-27 20:38 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 02/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add support for PMF core layer Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 13:57 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 03/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add support for PMF APCI layer Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 13:57 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 04/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add support SPS PMF feature Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 19:29 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-27 20:26 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 05/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add debugfs information Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 19:50 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 06/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add heartbeat signal support Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 19:53 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 07/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add fan control support Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 20:11 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 08/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Get performance metrics from PMFW Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 20:36 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 09/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add support for CnQF Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 20:51 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-27 21:00 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 10/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add sysfs to toggle CnQF Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 20:52 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-27 21:12 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 11/15] Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-amd-pmf: Add ABI doc for AMD PMF Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 20:52 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 12/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add support for Auto mode feature Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 21:22 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-28 12:57 ` Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-28 13:15 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 13/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Handle AMT and CQL events for Auto mode Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 21:33 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-27 21:44 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-27 21:46 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-27 23:52 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-07-28 13:03 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-28 13:43 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-07-28 14:09 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-28 14:38 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-07-28 17:46 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-28 18:06 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-07-28 18:17 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-28 21:01 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-07-29 11:03 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-29 15:43 ` Limonciello, Mario
2022-07-29 17:40 ` Shyam Sundar S K [this message]
2022-07-29 17:59 ` Hans de Goede
2022-08-01 10:29 ` Shyam Sundar S K
2022-08-01 11:08 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 14/15] platform/x86/amd/pmf: Force load driver on older supported platforms Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 21:40 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-12 14:58 ` [PATCH v1 15/15] MAINTAINERS: Add AMD PMF driver entry Shyam Sundar S K
2022-07-27 21:41 ` Hans de Goede
2022-07-28 17:44 ` Shyam Sundar S K
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