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From: "Limonciello, Mario" <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>, "Shen, Yijun" <Yijun.Shen@dell.com>,
	Lyndon Sanche <lsanche@lyndeno.ca>
Cc: "pali@kernel.org" <pali@kernel.org>,
	"srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com"
	<srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	"ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"lkp@intel.com" <lkp@intel.com>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Vegard Nossum <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	"platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org"
	<platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dell Client Kernel <Dell.Client.Kernel@dell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] platform/x86: dell-laptop: Implement platform_profile
Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 17:14:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24fa8cdd-4c7b-4ec2-bffd-ff80e190f5fa@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e583ccb0-b0be-4fb6-8e70-e4cd6921d77d@gmx.de>

On 5/12/2024 1:47 PM, Armin Wolf wrote:
>> Why?  Windows also does ACPI-WMI differently than Linux.  It's not as
>> easy to check both from a Windows utility due to that.
> 
> Actually, it is quite easy to check both interfaces from a Windows 
> utility. Both ACPI-WMI objects can be accessed by
> Windows applications, the utility just has to interact with an 
> additional WMI object, but they decided to not do it.
> 

Ah I didn't realize that they're actually instanciable from the WMI 
repository in an application, but that makes perfect sense with how easy 
it is to do from PowerShell.

> Also the original smbios-thermal-ctl utility was created by Dell itself 
> (i think?), so they likely would have implemented this
> if it really was necessary.
> 

It was created at a time that the ACPI WMI BIOS attributes interface 
didn't exist.  I've understood that the general direction is to use the 
WMI BIOS attributes interface in the future.

That's why I was suggesting using both, if such a transition happens 
then this driver would be ready for it.

> As Dell likely only tests their machines with Windows (if at all), i 
> propose that we try to match the Windows behavior.

I don't have a strong horse in this game, but I see what you mean in 
terms of general compatibility.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-12 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-25 17:27 [PATCH] platform/x86: dell-laptop: Implement platform_profile Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-25 20:07 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-04-25 20:24   ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-25 20:28     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-04-25 21:51       ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2024-04-26  0:38         ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-26 16:14     ` srinivas pandruvada
2024-04-26 18:23       ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-26 18:24         ` srinivas pandruvada
2024-04-25 20:12 ` Pali Rohár
2024-04-25 20:27   ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-25 20:31     ` Pali Rohár
2024-04-25 21:07 ` Armin Wolf
2024-04-26  0:54   ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-26  2:04 ` [PATCH v2] " Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-26  9:23   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-04-26 18:05     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-13 20:09   ` kernel test robot
2024-04-26  6:57 ` [PATCH] " Ilpo Järvinen
2024-04-29 16:48 ` [PATCH v3] " Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-29 17:45   ` Mario Limonciello
2024-04-29 17:51     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-04-29 21:25       ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-29 21:21     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-30 10:31   ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-04-30 18:38     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-04-30 15:36   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-01  8:16   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-01 16:35   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-01 17:07   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-01  1:14 ` [PATCH v4] " Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-01  1:36   ` Pali Rohár
2024-05-01  1:42     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-01 21:58 ` [PATCH v5] " Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-03 10:19   ` kernel test robot
2024-05-04  1:03     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-06 10:18       ` Hans de Goede
2024-05-07 16:00         ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-03 21:19   ` Armin Wolf
2024-05-04  0:59     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-08 14:24   ` Shen, Yijun
2024-05-08 15:53     ` Mario Limonciello
2024-05-11 15:05       ` Shen, Yijun
2024-05-11 15:12         ` Limonciello, Mario
2024-05-11 15:56           ` Shen, Yijun
2024-05-12 17:53             ` Armin Wolf
2024-05-12 17:58               ` Limonciello, Mario
2024-05-12 18:47                 ` Armin Wolf
2024-05-12 22:14                   ` Limonciello, Mario [this message]
2024-05-11 16:02         ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-09 15:10     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-11  1:49       ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-11 15:22         ` Shen, Yijun
2024-05-11 15:54           ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-11 16:12             ` Shen, Yijun
2024-05-11  2:36 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] " Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-11  2:36 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Add helper for checking supported commands Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-11 15:13   ` Limonciello, Mario
2024-05-12 18:00   ` Armin Wolf
2024-05-11  2:36 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] platform/x86: dell-laptop: Implement platform_profile Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-11 15:16   ` Limonciello, Mario
2024-05-11 15:59     ` Lyndon Sanche
     [not found]       ` <48JCDS.E4RT1F9DTKFU1@lyndeno.ca>
2024-05-12  1:43         ` Limonciello, Mario
2024-05-12 15:25           ` Hans de Goede
2024-05-12  0:14     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-12 18:05   ` Armin Wolf
2024-05-15 17:06     ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-17 22:42 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] platform/x86: dell: " Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-17 22:42   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Add helper for checking supported class Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-17 22:42   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Move request functions for reuse Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-17 22:42   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] platform/x86: dell-pc: Implement platform_profile Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-27  9:39     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-05-28 16:16       ` Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-21 20:50   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] platform/x86: dell: " Mario Limonciello
2024-05-29 17:47 ` [PATCH v8 " Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-29 17:47   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Add helper for checking supported class Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-29 17:47   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Move request functions for reuse Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-29 17:47   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] platform/x86: dell-pc: Implement platform_profile Lyndon Sanche
2024-05-30  8:39     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-05-31  1:19       ` Lyndon Sanche

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