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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/17] qcow2: convert QCow2 to use QCryptoBlock for encryption
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 10:50:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160121105045.GE19835@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160121095423.GD31470@ad.usersys.redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 05:54:23PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> On Wed, 01/20 17:38, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > This converts the qcow2 driver to make use of the QCryptoBlock
> > APIs for encrypting image content. As well as continued support
> > for the legacy QCow2 encryption format, the appealing benefit
> > is that it enables support for the LUKS format inside qcow2.
> 
> FWIW, with today's QEMU, it's possible to stack format drivers on top of each
> other.  In other words, even without this patch, we can make LUKS driver
> encrypt/decrypt the qcow2 payload, while keeping them completely orthogonal.

Yep, that is certainly possible, and it is what is intended for using
LUKS with RBD, iSCSI, & other network drivers.

I think there is value in having LUKS integrated directly into qcow2
though. It means that given a qcow2 file you can 100% reliably
distinguish between a file created with the intention of QEMU managing
the LUKS encryption, from a file where the guest OS happens to have
set up LUKS encryption in its virtual disk. If you don't have this,
then given a random qcow2 file, you have to probe to see if LUKS is
present or not. Given the security issues we've had in the past with
raw images being turned into qcow2 images by a malicious guest writing
a qcow2 header, I feel that having explicitly integration LUKS support
in QCow is worthwhile as a concept.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-21 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-20 17:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/17] Support LUKS encryption in block devices Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/17] crypto: ensure qcrypto_hash_digest_len is always defined Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  6:12   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/17] crypto: add cryptographic random byte source Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  6:12   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21  8:59     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 17:44   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/17] crypto: add support for PBKDF2 algorithm Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  6:59   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 10:59     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 22:14   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05  9:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 10:13     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/17] crypto: add support for generating initialization vectors Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  7:51   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 11:00     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 22:57   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05 10:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 13:23       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/17] crypto: add support for anti-forensic split algorithm Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  8:37   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 11:01     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-04 23:26   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05 12:37     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 12:39     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/17] crypto: add block encryption framework Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05  0:23   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-05 12:43     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 18:48       ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/17] crypto: implement the LUKS block encryption format Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 17:38   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-08 16:03     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/17] block: add flag to indicate that no I/O will be performed Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 19:08   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/17] qemu-img/qemu-io: don't prompt for passwords if not required Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 19:52   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/17] block: add generic full disk encryption driver Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  9:12   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 11:02     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21 13:01       ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 13:12         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-05 22:20   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-08 16:28     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 20:23       ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09  9:55         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/17] qcow2: make qcow2_encrypt_sectors encrypt in place Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  9:13   ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-05 23:22   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/17] qcow2: convert QCow2 to use QCryptoBlock for encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21  9:54   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 10:50     ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2016-01-21 13:56       ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 14:03         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 18:12   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:32     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/17] qcow: make encrypt_sectors encrypt in place Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 20:30   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/17] qcow: convert QCow to use QCryptoBlock for encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 20:57   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/17] block: rip out all traces of password prompting Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-21 13:02   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-21 13:11     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/17] block: remove all encryption handling APIs Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 21:23   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:34     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-20 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/17] block: remove support for legecy AES qcow/qcow2 encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-08 21:26   ` Eric Blake
2016-02-09 12:35     ` Daniel P. Berrange

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