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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Evgeny Yakovlev <wrfsh@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	yc-core@yandex-team.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] virtio-blk: advertise F_WCE (F_FLUSH) if F_CONFIG_WCE is also advertised
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 18:20:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191009172010.GC13568@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7d2c01d-1676-f02c-e538-f924282eb6a5@yandex-team.ru>

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On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 03:37:35PM +0300, Evgeny Yakovlev wrote:
> On 08.10.2019 16:24, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 02:56:30PM +0300, Evgeny Yakovlev wrote:
> > The motivation for this change looks correct but this patch may cause
> > host_features to change across live migration to a newer QEMU version.
> > If the guest accesses VIRTIO_PCI_HOST_FEATURES before and after live
> > migration it may see different values, which is unexpected.
> > 
> > The safe way of introducing guest-visible changes like this is to make
> > the change conditional on the machine type version so that old guests
> > see old behavior and new guests see new behavior.
> > 
> > Live migration compatibility can be guaranteed by adding a new property
> > to virtio_blk_properties[]:
> > 
> >    DEFINE_PROP_BOOL("enable-wce-if-config-wce", VirtIOBlock,
> >                     conf.enable_wce_if_config_wce, true),
> > 
> > Then tweak the patch:
> > 
> >    if (blk_enable_write_cache(s->blk) ||
> >        (s->conf.enable_wce_if_config_wce &&
> >         virtio_has_feature(features, VIRTIO_BLK_F_CONFIG_WCE))) {
> > 
> > And finally disable enable_wce_if_config_wce for older machine types to
> > retain compatibility:
> > 
> >    GlobalProperty hw_compat_4_2[] = {
> >        { "virtio-blk-device", "enable-wce-if-config-wce", "off" },
> >    };
> > 
> > (I have omitted some steps like defining
> > VirtIOBlkConf.enable_wce_if_config_wce field and hooking up
> > hw_compat_4_2[], but you can figure that out from the existing code.)
> 
> 
> Why don't we just migrate host_features? That will ensure they are the same.
> And messing up device config on destination is bad anyway.

Traditionally QEMU has not migrated host state/objects.  Instead it
relies on the destination QEMU command-line producing exactly the same
host state as on the source host.

A problem with migration host state is that it's impossible to offer
host features that are unavailable on the destination host (they cannot
be "migrated").

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-09 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-20 11:56 [RFC PATCH] virtio-blk: advertise F_WCE (F_FLUSH) if F_CONFIG_WCE is also advertised Evgeny Yakovlev
2019-10-08 13:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-09 12:37   ` Evgeny Yakovlev
2019-10-09 17:20     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2019-10-09 19:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-10 11:52     ` Evgeny Yakovlev

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