From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74A2C32771 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B203020661 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="KDWuThcd" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org B203020661 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:42450 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iw1UE-0006C4-Or for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 05:19:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iw1TY-0005kq-TU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 05:18:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iw1TX-0004ze-0R for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 05:18:36 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com ([207.211.31.120]:42652 helo=us-smtp-1.mimecast.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iw1TW-0004zA-TZ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 05:18:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1580120314; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7dY2dr80K2QrKye3Sl+XOMrvIm2z2Bgr5HdW9O9waFA=; b=KDWuThcdhmzGdnq7XXVx3bSg3jcjWONXS5ppHbmBOBJRRN887+E8UNp10ZcNl3LqRrGhV3 WZ2vr8fhf0YhXk8yc8dn+x7oF0xu7u8n/8qp+JGi774ooSXQsoTqz/bh6t7c/iZwHXFLb0 hFyYrT90lZJkaUKZdFUSnM9y3T912D8= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-293-GXg7TWpiO5qhgnF1KH1Jjw-1; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 05:18:32 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18DEA800D48; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (ovpn-112-52.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.112.52]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B67C619C58; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:18:16 +0000 From: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= To: Markus Armbruster Subject: Re: Making QEMU easier for management tools and applications Message-ID: <20200127101816.GD837450@redhat.com> References: <20191224134139.GD2710539@redhat.com> <30664f6e-81da-a6e6-9b20-037fc91290fb@redhat.com> <878slyej29.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20200123190145.GI657556@redhat.com> <2561a069-ce5f-3c30-b04e-db7cd2fcdc85@redhat.com> <871rrp474i.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20200124102743.GB824327@redhat.com> <20200124143841.GG4732@dhcp-200-226.str.redhat.com> <87sgk3x2im.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87sgk3x2im.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 X-MC-Unique: GXg7TWpiO5qhgnF1KH1Jjw-1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 207.211.31.120 X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Daniel =?utf-8?B?UC4gQmVycmFuZ8Op?= Cc: Kevin Wolf , Peter Maydell , "Denis V. Lunev" , Cleber Rosa , Stefan Hajnoczi , qemu-devel , Eduardo Habkost , Paolo Bonzini , =?utf-8?Q?Marc-Andr=C3=A9?= Lureau , John Snow , Dominik Csapak Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 11:18:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: > Kevin Wolf writes: >=20 > > Am 24.01.2020 um 11:27 hat Daniel P. Berrang=C3=A9 geschrieben: > >> So if we allowed YAML instead of JSON, now we get... > >>=20 > >> $ cat qemu.yaml > >> --- > >> arguments: > >> - arg: object > >> data: > >> type: secret > >> id: libvirt-5-storage-secret0 > >> data: 9eao5F8qtkGt+seB1HYivWIxbtwUu6MQtg1zpj/oDtUsPr1q8wBYM91uEH= Cn6j/1 > >> keyid: masterKey0 > >> iv: AAECAwQFBgcICQoLDA0ODw=3D=3D > >> format: base64 > >> - arg: object > >> data: > >> type: secret > >> id: libvirt-5-format-luks-secret0 > >> data: 9eao5F8qtkGt+seB1HYivWIxbtwUu6MQtg1zpj/oDtUsPr1q8wBYM91uEH= Cn6j/1 > >> keyid: masterKey0 > >> iv: AAECAwQFBgcICQoLDA0ODw=3D=3D > >> format: base64 > >> - arg: blockdev > >> data: > >> node-name: libvirt-5-format > >> read-only: false > >> driver: qcow2 > >> encrypt: > >> format: luks > >> key-secret: libvirt-5-format-luks-secret0 > >> file: > >> driver: iscsi > >> portal: example.org:6000 > >> target: iqn.1992-01.com.example:storage > >> lun: 1 > >> transport: tcp > >> user: myname > >> password-secret: libvirt-5-storage-secret0 > >> node-name: libvirt-5-storage > >> auto-read-only: true > >> discard: unmap > >> $ qemu-system-x86_64 -f qemu.yaml > >>=20 > >> This is finally something I'd consider to be on a par with the > >> original QEMU syntax, before we added hierarchical data. You > >> have the minimal possible amount of syntax here. No commas, > >> no quotes, no curly brackets, etc. > > > > This seems to have the same problems as the QEMU command line (how do > > you distinguish strings from ints, from bools, from null?). >=20 > True: YAML provides only string scalars. Actually, YAML provides strings, integers, booleans & nulls, the same level of typing at JSON, but with added benefit of supporting comments officially: https://rollout.io/blog/yaml-tutorial-everything-you-need-get-started/ Regards, Daniel --=20 |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange= :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com= :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange= :|