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From: Niels de Vos <ndevos@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"open list:GLUSTER" <integration@gluster.org>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com,
	david.edmondson@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [GEDI] [PATCH 07/17] gluster: Drop useless has_zero_init callback
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 15:01:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200217140151.GO239686@ndevos-x270.lan.nixpanic.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <457280bf-58da-404d-7ac1-edf1531623c9@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 06:03:40AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 2/17/20 2:06 AM, Niels de Vos wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:44:26AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
> > > block.c already defaults to 0 if we don't provide a callback; there's
> > > no need to write a callback that always fails.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Reviewed-by: Niels de Vos <ndevos@redhat.com>
> > 
> 
> Per your other message,
> 
> On 2/17/20 2:16 AM, Niels de Vos wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:44:31AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
> >> Since gluster already copies file-posix for lseek usage in block
> >> status, it also makes sense to copy it for learning if the image
> >> currently reads as all zeroes.
> >>
> 
> >> +static int qemu_gluster_known_zeroes(BlockDriverState *bs)
> >> +{
> >> +    /*
> >> +     * GlusterFS volume could be backed by a block device, with no way
> >
> > Actually, Gluster dropped support for volumes backed by block devices
> > (LVM) a few releases back. Nobody could be found that used it, and it
> > could not be combined with other Gluster features. All contents on a
> > Gluster volume is now always backed by 'normal' files on a filesystem.
> 
> That's useful to know.  Thanks!
> 
> >
> > Creation or truncation should behave just as on a file on a local
> > filesystem. So maybe qemu_gluster_known_zeroes is not needed at all?
> 
> Which version of gluster first required a regular filesystem backing for all
> gluster files?  Does qemu support older versions (in which case, what is the
> correct version-probing invocation to return 0 prior to that point, and 1
> after), or do all versions supported by qemu already guarantee zero
> initialization on creation or widening truncation by virtue of POSIX file
> semantics (in which case, patch 7 should instead switch to using
> .bdrv_has_zero_init_1 for both functions)?  Per configure, we probe for
> glusterfs_xlator_opt from gluster 4, which implies the code still tries to
> be portable to even older gluster, but I'm not sure if this squares with
> qemu-doc.texi which mentions our minimum distro policy (for example, now
> that qemu requires python 3 consistent with our distro policy, that rules
> out several older systems where older gluster was likely to be present).

The block device feature (storage/bd xlator) got deprecated in Gluster
5.0, and was removed with Gluster 6.0. Fedora 29 is the last version
that contained the bd.so xlator (glusterfs-server 5.0, deprecated).

All currently maintained and available Gluster releases should have
glusterfs_xlator_opt (introduced with glusterfs-3.5 in 2014). However, I
am not sure what versions are provided with different distributions. The
expectation is that at least Gluster 5 is provided, as older releases
will not get any updates anymore. See
https://www.gluster.org/release-schedule/ for a more detailed timeline.

Unfortunately there is no reasonable way to probe for the type of
backend (block or filesystem) that is used. So, a runtime check to be on
the extreme safe side to fallback on block device backends is not an
option.

HTH,
Niels



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-17 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-31 17:44 [PATCH 00/17] Improve qcow2 all-zero detection Eric Blake
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 01/17] qcow2: Comment typo fixes Eric Blake
2020-02-04 14:12   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-09 19:34   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 02/17] qcow2: List autoclear bit names in header Eric Blake
2020-02-04 14:26   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 03/17] qcow2: Avoid feature name extension on small cluster size Eric Blake
2020-02-04 14:39   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-09 19:28   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 04/17] block: Improve documentation of .bdrv_has_zero_init Eric Blake
2020-02-04 15:03   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-04 15:16     ` Eric Blake
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 05/17] block: Don't advertise zero_init_truncate with encryption Eric Blake
2020-02-10 18:12   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 06/17] block: Improve bdrv_has_zero_init_truncate with backing file Eric Blake
2020-02-10 18:13   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 07/17] gluster: Drop useless has_zero_init callback Eric Blake
2020-02-04 15:06   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-10 18:21   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-02-17  8:06   ` [GEDI] " Niels de Vos
2020-02-17 12:03     ` Eric Blake
2020-02-17 12:22       ` Eric Blake
2020-02-17 14:01       ` Niels de Vos [this message]
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 08/17] sheepdog: Consistently set bdrv_has_zero_init_truncate Eric Blake
2020-02-04 15:09   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 09/17] block: Refactor bdrv_has_zero_init{,_truncate} Eric Blake
2020-02-04 15:35   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-04 15:49     ` Eric Blake
2020-02-04 16:07       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-04 17:42     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-04 17:51       ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05 16:43         ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05  7:51       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05 14:07         ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05 14:25           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05 14:36             ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05 17:55           ` Max Reitz
2020-02-04 17:53   ` Max Reitz
2020-02-04 19:03     ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05 17:22       ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05 18:39         ` Eric Blake
2020-02-06  9:18           ` Max Reitz
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 10/17] block: Add new BDRV_ZERO_OPEN flag Eric Blake
2020-01-31 18:03   ` Eric Blake
2020-02-04 17:34   ` Max Reitz
2020-02-04 17:50     ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05  8:39       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05 17:26       ` Max Reitz
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 11/17] file-posix: Support BDRV_ZERO_OPEN Eric Blake
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 12/17] gluster: " Eric Blake
2020-02-17  8:16   ` [GEDI] " Niels de Vos
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 13/17] qcow2: Add new autoclear feature for all zero image Eric Blake
2020-02-03 17:45   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-04 13:12     ` Eric Blake
2020-02-04 13:29       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 14/17] qcow2: Expose all zero bit through .bdrv_known_zeroes Eric Blake
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 15/17] qcow2: Implement all-zero autoclear bit Eric Blake
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 16/17] iotests: Add new test for qcow2 all-zero bit Eric Blake
2020-01-31 17:44 ` [PATCH 17/17] qcow2: Let qemu-img check cover " Eric Blake
2020-02-04 17:32 ` [PATCH 00/17] Improve qcow2 all-zero detection Max Reitz
2020-02-04 18:53   ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05 17:04     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05 19:21       ` Eric Blake
2020-02-06  9:12         ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05  9:04 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05  9:25   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05 14:26     ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05 14:47       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05 15:14         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05 17:58           ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05 14:22   ` Eric Blake
2020-02-05 14:43     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-02-05 14:58       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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