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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Daniel Henrique Barboza <danielhb413@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/10] numa: introduce MachineClass::forbid_asymmetrical_numa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:12:08 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200825111208.GH4734@yekko.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98728fe4-1262-6be2-8dd1-1b38ffbe81e9@gmail.com>

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On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 06:56:46AM -0300, Daniel Henrique Barboza wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/24/20 8:49 PM, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 08:45:12AM -0300, Daniel Henrique Barboza wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > > LOPAPR support a somewhat asymmetrical NUMA setup in its current
> > > > > form,
> > > > 
> > > > Huh, I didn't even realize that.  What's the mechanism?
> > > 
> > > LOPAPR mentions that a single resource/node can have multiple associativity
> > > arrays. The idea is to contemplate the situations where the node has
> > > more than one connection with the board.
> > > 
> > > I say "somewhat" because, right after mentioning that, the spec also says that
> > > the OS should consider that the distance between two nodes must always be
> > > the shortest one of all available arrays. I'll copy/paste the except here
> > > (end of section 15.2, "Numa Resource Associativity":
> > 
> > Ah.  I didn't think that's what "asymmetric NUMA" meant... but come to
> > think of it, I'm not very sure about that.
> 
> 
> This was a poor attempt of my part to cut PAPR some slack.
> 
> TBH, even if current PAPR allows for some form of NUMA asymmetry, I don't think
> it's worth implementing at all. It'll be more complexity on top of what I
> already added here, and the best case scenario will be the kernel ignoring it
> (worst case - kernel blowing it up because we're adding more associativity
> arrays in each CPU and so on).

Yes, I agree.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-25 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-14 20:54 [PATCH 00/10] pseries NUMA distance rework Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] hw: add compat machines for 5.2 Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] numa: introduce MachineClass::forbid_asymmetrical_numa Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-20  1:17   ` David Gibson
2020-08-20  2:11     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-08-20  4:15       ` David Gibson
2020-08-20 10:33         ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-20 14:29           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-08-20 16:51         ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-08-21  8:55           ` Igor Mammedov
2020-08-21 12:47             ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-24  6:08               ` David Gibson
2020-08-24 11:45                 ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-24 23:49                   ` David Gibson
2020-08-25  9:56                     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-25 11:12                       ` David Gibson [this message]
2020-09-23 15:21           ` John Snow
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] spapr: robustify NVLink2 NUMA node logic Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-20  2:14   ` David Gibson
2020-08-26 21:49     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] spapr: add spapr_machine_using_legacy_numa() helper Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-20  2:15   ` David Gibson
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] spapr: make ibm, max-associativity-domains scale with user input Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-20  2:55   ` [PATCH 05/10] spapr: make ibm,max-associativity-domains " David Gibson
2020-08-26 21:17     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] spapr: allow 4 NUMA levels in ibm, associativity-reference-points Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] spapr: create helper to set ibm,associativity Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-20  3:00   ` David Gibson
2020-08-20 10:39     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] spapr: introduce SpaprMachineClass::numa_assoc_domains Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-20  4:26   ` David Gibson
2020-08-26 20:06     ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] spapr: consider user input when defining spapr guest NUMA Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-08-14 20:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] specs/ppc-spapr-numa: update with new NUMA support Daniel Henrique Barboza

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