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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Denis Plotnikov <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] vl: Drain before (block) job cancel when quitting
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 21:40:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <309c0932-a9b4-40a6-8db2-7940171f52e5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32adc55c-c71d-59bf-963b-48d2ae5b3e30@virtuozzo.com>


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On 14.06.19 11:22, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 13.06.2019 19:03, Max Reitz wrote:
>> [re-adding the original CCs, why not]
>>
>> On 13.06.19 16:30, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> 13.06.2019 17:21, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> On 13.06.19 16:19, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>> 13.06.2019 1:08, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>>> If the main loop cancels all block jobs while the block layer is not
>>>>>> drained, this cancelling may not happen instantaneously.  We can start a
>>>>>> drained section before vm_shutdown(), which entails another
>>>>>> bdrv_drain_all(); this nested bdrv_drain_all() will thus be a no-op,
>>>>>> basically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do not have to end the drained section, because we actually do not
>>>>>> want any requests to happen from this point on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> I don't know whether it actually makes sense to never end this drained
>>>>>> section.  It makes sense to me.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>     vl.c | 11 +++++++++++
>>>>>>     1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/vl.c b/vl.c
>>>>>> index cd1fbc4cdc..3f8b3f74f5 100644
>>>>>> --- a/vl.c
>>>>>> +++ b/vl.c
>>>>>> @@ -4538,6 +4538,17 @@ int main(int argc, char **argv, char **envp)
>>>>>>          */
>>>>>>         migration_shutdown();
>>>>>>     
>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>> +     * We must cancel all block jobs while the block layer is drained,
>>>>>> +     * or cancelling will be affected by throttling and thus may block
>>>>>> +     * for an extended period of time.
>>>>>> +     * vm_shutdown() will bdrv_drain_all(), so we may as well include
>>>>>> +     * it in the drained section.
>>>>>> +     * We do not need to end this section, because we do not want any
>>>>>> +     * requests happening from here on anyway.
>>>>>> +     */
>>>>>> +    bdrv_drain_all_begin();
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>         /* No more vcpu or device emulation activity beyond this point */
>>>>>>         vm_shutdown();
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, actually, the problem is that we may wait for job requests twice:
>>>>> on drain and then on cancel.
>>>>
>>>> We don’t wait on drain.  When the throttle node is drained, it will
>>>> ignore throttling (as noted in the cover letter).
>>>>
>>>> We do wait when cancelling a job while the throttle node isn’t drained,
>>>> though.  That’s the problem.
>>>
>>> Ah, understand now.
>>>
>>> Is it safe to drain_begin before stopping cpus? We may finish up then with some queued
>>> somewhere IO requests..
>>
>> Hm...  Aren’t guest devices prohibited from issuing requests to the
>> block layer while their respective block device is drained?
> 
> It's at least a buggy place, I remember Denis Plotnikov sent patch to fix it and had a huge
> discussion with Kevin.
> And here it is:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-12/msg00732.html

Ah, I even have that in my inbox...  The latest reply I see came in April:

https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-block/2019-04/msg00243.html

Where Kevin asked for an RFC patch in the current state.

I’m not sure whether I should work around a potential bug here, if we
can agree that it is a bug, and if it isn’t clear whether this place
would actually be affected.

Max


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-19 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-12 22:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] vl: Drain before (block) job cancel when quitting Max Reitz
2019-06-12 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] " Max Reitz
     [not found]   ` <b110b753-8546-0d34-f6ef-06c5726766ce@virtuozzo.com>
     [not found]     ` <c1fbf12a-77af-d939-4266-67b822e5a923@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <57ae7f82-ae02-a382-74f6-cb96672b2058@virtuozzo.com>
2019-06-13 16:03         ` Max Reitz
2019-06-14  9:22           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-06-19 19:40             ` Max Reitz [this message]
2019-07-16  7:00               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-06-12 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] iotests: Test quitting with job on throttled node Max Reitz
2019-06-12 22:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] vl: Drain before (block) job cancel when quitting Max Reitz
2019-07-19 13:26 ` Kevin Wolf

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