qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: QEMU Trivial <qemu-trivial@nongnu.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] osdep.h: Add doc comment for qemu_get_thread_id()
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:24:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d2cba04-04d8-9b82-562f-acb84b6010d2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200730155939.GP3477223@redhat.com>

On 7/30/20 10:59 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:

>> Well, I suspect that management-layer code currently has
>> gone for "assume we're always running on Linux" and was
>> written by people who knew they were getting a Linux tid...
> 
> Yes, on the libvirt side, the functionality that relies on thread_is is
> only compiled on Linux. If someone wants to use it on other OS, they'll
> have to provide an impl using their platforms equivalent of
> sched_setaffinity and friends since none of this stuff is standardized
> across OS.
> 
> 
>>> The PID is quite unlikely to be "an OS-specific identifier of the
>>> current thread".  Shouldn't we fail instead of lie when we don't know
>>> how to compute the truth?
>>
>> Yeah, I think the default codepath is pretty bogus too. Should
>> the QMP functions have a mechanism for saying "we don't know
>> a thread-id on this platform" ?
> 
> Thread_id should be optional and thus not filled in if we
> can't provide a sensible value. Unfortunately we made it
> mandatory in QMP.

Normally, converting a mandatory output value to optional is a 
back-compatibility risk (we could break apps that depended on it being 
present).  But if the only apps that depended on it being present are 
compiled on Linux, where the member will actually be present, I think 
that changing the schema to make it optional for non-Linux platforms 
won't be a back-compatibility nightmare (but we will have to be careful 
in our documentation).

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-30 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-16 15:41 [PATCH] osdep.h: Add doc comment for qemu_get_thread_id() Peter Maydell
2020-07-28 15:02 ` Peter Maydell
2020-07-28 15:16 ` Eric Blake
2020-07-28 15:25   ` Peter Maydell
2020-07-30 15:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-30 15:52       ` Peter Maydell
2020-07-30 15:59         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-30 16:24           ` Eric Blake [this message]
2020-07-30 16:40             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-31  7:44             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-31 13:46               ` Eric Blake
2020-07-31 13:51                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-10-12 15:33 [PATCH 00/10] target/arm: Various v8.1M minor features Peter Maydell
2020-10-12 15:33 ` [PATCH] osdep.h: Add doc comment for qemu_get_thread_id() Peter Maydell

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4d2cba04-04d8-9b82-562f-acb84b6010d2@redhat.com \
    --to=eblake@redhat.com \
    --cc=armbru@redhat.com \
    --cc=berrange@redhat.com \
    --cc=peter.maydell@linaro.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=qemu-trivial@nongnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).