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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/7] exec: Use const alias for TARGET_PAGE_BITS_VARY
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 17:16:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5225af4a-51db-5e21-ad67-77d50b365786@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA99ABj9LU4fox-7Zaz4NG-yKQ7cD21M9xv=AwtSSOr1mA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/25/19 5:01 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 21:43, Richard Henderson
> <richard.henderson@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/25/19 10:51 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>>> + * We want to declare the "target_page" variable as const, which tells
>>>> + * the compiler that it can cache any value that it reads across calls.
>>>> + * This avoids multiple assertions and multiple reads within any one user.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * This works because we initialize the target_page data very early, in a
>>>> + * location far removed from the functions that require the final results.
>>>
>>> I have to say that this feels like a worryingly large amount
>>> of magic. Is this actually guaranteed to work by the compiler?
>>
>> Yes.
> 
> I'm curious to know how the compiler engineers define
> "very early" and "far removed" -- in my experience they
> usually prefer to be more precise than that :-)

I remembered putting more precise language in there, but I don't see it now.
Perhaps I just dreamt it.

The last write to the non-const variable happens before the first time we
access the const variable.  At the first access to the const variable, we
assert that it has been initialized.

There's no specific barrier to avoid that first read of the const variable not
be hoisted by the compiler before the last store of the non-const variable,
except for being in a separate function, in a separate compilation unit, and
thus "far away".

We could, perhaps, put a barrier() at the end of finalize_target_page_bits(),
documenting this fact against some future date when compilation with -flto is
viable.  I will say, though, that I've tried that recently and quite some work
is required before one could enable -flto.  In the meantime, the barrier()
would compile away to nothing.


r~


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-25 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-23 15:44 [PATCH v2 0/7] exec: Improve code for TARGET_PAGE_BITS_VARY Richard Henderson
2019-10-23 15:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] cpu: use ROUND_UP() to define xxx_PAGE_ALIGN Richard Henderson
2019-10-24 11:52   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-24 12:04     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-24 14:06       ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-24 14:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-25 11:48           ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-23 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] exec: Split out variable page size support to exec-vary.c Richard Henderson
2019-10-25 14:02   ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-23 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] configure: Detect compiler support for __attribute__((alias)) Richard Henderson
2019-10-25 14:04   ` Alex Bennée
2019-11-08 16:01     ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-23 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] exec: Use const alias for TARGET_PAGE_BITS_VARY Richard Henderson
2019-10-25 14:28   ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-25 14:51   ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-25 20:43     ` Richard Henderson
2019-10-25 21:01       ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-25 21:16         ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2019-10-23 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] exec: Restrict TARGET_PAGE_BITS_VARY assert to CONFIG_DEBUG_TCG Richard Henderson
2019-10-25 14:44   ` Alex Bennée
2019-10-23 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] exec: Promote TARGET_PAGE_MASK to target_long Richard Henderson
2019-10-23 15:45 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] exec: Cache TARGET_PAGE_MASK for TARGET_PAGE_BITS_VARY Richard Henderson
2019-10-24  9:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] exec: Improve code " no-reply
2019-10-25 13:57 ` Alex Bennée

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