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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] RFC crypto/luks: encryption key managment using amend interface
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:07:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a9f329058f6633878eb7d1c7170ae2cfab7e235.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86918b16-a3c1-4b1e-7e21-1b8e84411065@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 12:58 +0100, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 08.11.19 16:07, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > On Fri, 2019-10-04 at 21:10 +0200, Max Reitz wrote:
> > > On 13.09.19 00:30, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > > This patch series is continuation of my work to add encryption
> > > > key managment to luks/qcow2 with luks.
> > > > 
> > > > This is second version of this patch set.
> > > > The changes are mostly addressing the review feedback,
> > > > plus I tested (and fixed sadly) the somewhat ugly code
> > > > that allows to still write share a raw luks device,
> > > > while preveting the key managment from happening in this case,
> > > > as it is unsafe.
> > > > I added a new iotest dedicated to that as well.
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > 	Maxim Levitsky
> > > 
> > > At least for an RFC looks good from my perspective.  I didn’t look at
> > > the crypto things very closely (assuming Dan would do so), and I didn’t
> > > check the iotests in detail.  (But it definitely doesn’t look like they
> > > lack in breadth.  Maybe I’d like to see a test that you cannot have
> > > other useful nodes attached to the LUKS or qcow2 node while the
> > > amendment process is ongoing (because CONSISTENT_READ is unshared).  But
> > > that’s the only thing I can think of.)
> > 
> > Could you elaborate on this? 
> > 
> > Inside the same process several users can access that luks node at the same
> > time while one of them changes encryption keys, since this doesn't affect IO of the data.
> > 
> > Two users in same process I was *I think* told that can't do the amend in the same time
> > since qmp is protected with a lock. However since I use a block job (to be consistent with blockdev-create)
> > I wonder if several qmp amend commands couldn't race one with another. These jobs is running
> > on the block device AIO context (I changed this recently after a review), but stil I am not sure
> > there can't be a race.
> > 
> > And when there is access to the same image from multiple processes, I do have a test that
> > checks that as long as more that one process has the image open, noone can change the encryption keys
> > (this is only relevant for raw luks format, since for qcow2 this is forbidden anyway).
> 
> Yes, sorry, I don’t remember/know where I got the qcow2 part from.  (I
> probably just forgot during after reviewing that only LUKS’s permissions
> are changed by this series.)
> 
> But for LUKS, those changed permissions do apply.  If you can’t do
> something between two different qemu instances, you can’t do it in a
> single one: The file locks are equivalent to the internal permission mask.
> 
> So if you can’t change the encryption keys while another process has the
> image open, you can’t change the encryption keys while another node uses
> the file node in the same process.  For example, you can’t attach two
> LUKS nodes to a single file node and then change the keys on one of the
> nodes.
> 
> Max
> 
Ah, I understand now. I'll add a test for that!

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky



      reply	other threads:[~2019-11-12 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-12 22:30 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] RFC crypto/luks: encryption key managment using amend interface Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] qcrypto: add suport for amend options Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-23 13:08   ` Eric Blake
2019-09-23 13:24     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/11] qcrypto-luks: extend the create options for upcoming encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-04 17:42   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08  9:28     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-11-08 10:48       ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08 11:48         ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-07  7:49   ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2019-11-08  9:28     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-10 13:44   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-08 10:04     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/11] qcrypto-luks: implement the " Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/11] block: amend: add 'force' option Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/11] block/crypto: implement the encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-04 18:41   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08  9:30     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-11-08 10:49       ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08 11:04         ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-11-08 13:12           ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08 13:20             ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/11] qcow2: implement crypto amend options Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/11] block: add x-blockdev-amend qmp command Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-04 18:53   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08  9:26     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-11-08 10:36       ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08 13:37         ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-11-08  9:27     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-07  7:53   ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2019-11-08 15:38     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/11] block/crypto: implement blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-07  7:58   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-08 15:36     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/11] block/qcow2: " Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-04 19:03   ` Max Reitz
2019-10-07  8:04     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-08 15:14       ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-11-08 15:18     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/11] iotests: filter few more luks specific create options Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-12 22:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/11] iotests : add tests for encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-04 19:11   ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08  9:28     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-20 21:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] RFC crypto/luks: encryption key managment using amend interface John Snow
2019-09-22  8:17   ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-07  8:05     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-06 16:43       ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-30 17:11   ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-10-04 19:10 ` Max Reitz
2019-11-08 15:07   ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-11-12 11:58     ` Max Reitz
2019-11-12 12:07       ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]

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