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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v5 000/126] error: auto propagated local_err
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 06:59:15 -0600
Message-ID: <606dbe22-0d1e-66bb-aba9-681ca7961623@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538354c8-7ba9-8b1c-476e-5733c418207b@virtuozzo.com>

On 11/20/19 3:50 AM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> Okay...
> 
> I think that:
> 
> 1. A lot of efforts (not only my, I think reviewing is already exceeded generation efforts)
>     are made, it would be sad to lose them.
> 
> 2. It's safe enough to apply only part of generated patches: we just fix error_abort/error_fatal
>     in more popular subsystems, what's wrong with that? Why not to cover 80% cases by 20% efforts?
> 
> 3. It's obviously impossible to merge the whole series. A lot of time passed, series diverges.
> 
> 
> So I propose the following plan:
> 
> 1. I resend small separate series of preparation patches per maintainer. They are good anyway.
> 
> 2. We commit patch with macro (changing MUST to SHOULD in documentation) and coccinelle script.
>      (or that may be combined with the first series from [3.])
> 
> 3. When one of preparations taken to maintainer's tree, I send generated patches for
>      its maintainer.

I'd still prefer waiting for direction from Markus.  We've been tied up 
by other things (KVM Forum, 4.2 release), but now that we are in freeze, 
this is actually a GOOD time for Markus to finally get back to this 
series, and there is going to be less rebasing needed if we can apply 
the entire cleanup right as 5.0 development opens in a couple of weeks.


> 
> 
> If no objections during a week, I'll start that plan, hope someone will support it.
> 
> 


-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3226
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org



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2019-10-11 16:03 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 001/126] hw/core/loader-fit: fix freeing errp in fit_load_fdt Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 002/126] net/net: Clean up variable shadowing in net_client_init() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 003/126] error: rename errp to errp_in where it is IN-argument Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 18:29   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 004/126] hmp: drop Error pointer indirection in hmp_handle_error Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:33   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-11 18:32   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 18:35     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 005/126] vnc: drop Error pointer indirection in vnc_client_io_error Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 006/126] qdev-monitor: well form error hint helpers Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08 20:49   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 007/126] nbd: well form nbd_iter_channel_error errp handler Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:48   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 008/126] ppc: well form kvmppc_hint_smt_possible error hint helper Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08 20:50   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 009/126] 9pfs: well form error hint helpers Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12 14:59   ` Greg Kurz
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 010/126] hw/core/qdev: cleanup Error ** variables Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:52   ` Eric Blake
2019-11-08 20:55   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 011/126] block/snapshot: rename Error ** parameter to more common errp Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:52   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 012/126] hw/i386/amd_iommu: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:03 ` [RFC v5 013/126] qga: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 014/126] monitor/qmp-cmds: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 015/126] hw/s390x: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-12 13:01   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 016/126] hw/sd: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 18:12   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 017/126] hw/tpm: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 17:00   ` Stefan Berger
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 018/126] hw/usb: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 019/126] include/block/snapshot.h: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 18:13   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 020/126] include/qom/object.h: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:07   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 021/126] qapi/error: add (Error **errp) cleaning APIs Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 022/126] backends/cryptodev: drop local_err from cryptodev_backend_complete() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-11-08 20:59   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 023/126] hw/vfio/ap: drop local_err from vfio_ap_realize Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08 21:00   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-12 13:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-11-12 15:29     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 024/126] error: auto propagated local_err Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08 21:10   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 22:45     ` Eric Blake
2019-12-04 14:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-12-05  9:38     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-12-05 12:36       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-12-05 14:58         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-12-05 16:36           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-12-06  8:13             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-12-05 17:32           ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 025/126] scripts: add coccinelle script to use auto propagated errp Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 17:12   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 18:15     ` Eric Blake
2019-10-14  8:19     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-14 14:00       ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 026/126] python: add commit-per-subsystem.py Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08 21:18   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-11 16:37   ` Aleksandar Markovic
2019-11-12 13:08   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 027/126] misc: introduce ERRP_AUTO_PROPAGATE Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 18:44   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-14  8:51     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 028/126] s390x: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-12 13:20   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 029/126] tcg: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 030/126] kvm: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-12 13:31   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 031/126] xen: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-20 15:38   ` Anthony PERARD
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 032/126] Hosts: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 033/126] ARM Machines: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 034/126] MIPS " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:22   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-14  8:55     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 035/126] PowerPC " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-19 18:00   ` Greg Kurz
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 036/126] SPARC " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 037/126] S390 " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-12 13:33   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 038/126] X86 " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 039/126] IDE: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 040/126] Floppy: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 041/126] IPack: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 042/126] PCI: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 043/126] ACPI/SMBIOS: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 044/126] Network devices: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 045/126] pflash: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 046/126] SCSI: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 047/126] SD (Secure Card): " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 048/126] USB: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 049/126] USB (serial adapter): " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 050/126] VFIO: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 051/126] vfio-ccw: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-12 13:35   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 052/126] vhost: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 053/126] virtio: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 054/126] virtio-9p: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-19 16:56   ` Greg Kurz
2019-11-19 16:59     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-19 17:08       ` Greg Kurz
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 055/126] virtio-blk: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 056/126] virtio-ccw: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-12 13:37   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 057/126] virtio-input: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 058/126] virtio-serial: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 059/126] virtio-rng: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 060/126] megasas: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 061/126] NVDIMM: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 062/126] eepro100: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 063/126] virtio-gpu: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 064/126] fw_cfg: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 065/126] XIVE: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-19 18:14   ` Greg Kurz
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 066/126] Audio: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 067/126] block: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 19:15   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 068/126] scsi: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 069/126] chardev: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 070/126] cmdline: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 071/126] Dump: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 072/126] Memory API: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:04 ` [RFC v5 073/126] SPICE: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 074/126] Graphics: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 075/126] Main loop: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 076/126] Human Monitor (HMP): " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 077/126] net: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 078/126] hostmem: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 079/126] cryptodev: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 080/126] QAPI: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 19:22   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 081/126] qga: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 082/126] QOM: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 083/126] QMP: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 19:25   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 084/126] SLIRP: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:26   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 085/126] Tracing: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:26   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 086/126] TPM: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-16 14:35   ` Stefan Berger
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 087/126] Migration: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 088/126] Cryptography: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 089/126] I/O Channels: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 090/126] Sockets: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 091/126] colo: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 092/126] Record/replay: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 093/126] VMDK: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 094/126] RBD: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 095/126] Sheepdog: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 096/126] VHDX: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 097/126] VDI: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 098/126] iSCSI: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 099/126] nbd: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 19:39   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 100/126] NFS: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 101/126] SSH: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 102/126] CURL: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 103/126] GLUSTER: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 104/126] NVMe Block Driver: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 105/126] Bootdevice: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 106/126] Quorum: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 107/126] blklogwrites: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 108/126] blkverify: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 109/126] parallels: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 110/126] qed: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 111/126] raw: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 112/126] qcow2: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 113/126] qcow: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 114/126] blkdebug: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 115/126] vpc: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 116/126] vvfat: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 117/126] Replication: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 118/126] PVRDMA: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 119/126] hw/core/bus.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:29   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 120/126] hw/cpu/core.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 121/126] hw/sd/ssi-sd.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  6:33   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-14  9:07     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-14  9:14       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-14  9:15         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 122/126] iothread.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 123/126] memory_mapping.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 124/126] target/tilegx/cpu.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  7:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 125/126] tests/test-image-locking.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 16:05 ` [RFC v5 126/126] util/qemu-config.c: " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-11 17:02 ` [RFC v5 000/126] error: auto propagated local_err Eric Blake
2019-10-14  8:37   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-12  2:10 ` no-reply
2019-10-14  9:14   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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2019-10-14  9:11   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08 15:30 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08 18:57   ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-12 13:46     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-11-12 15:33       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-20  9:50   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-20 11:34     ` Greg Kurz
2019-11-20 12:12       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-20 12:59     ` Eric Blake [this message]
2019-11-20 13:13       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-28  8:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-28  9:20   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-28 12:21     ` Markus Armbruster

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