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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	Qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Nikolay Shirokovskiy <nshirokovskiy@virtuozzo.com>,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: bitmap migration bug with -drive while block mirror runs
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:05:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c506d34-5bb4-83a1-9959-b36a4fb020de@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191001095416.GC4688@linux.fritz.box>

01.10.2019 12:54, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 01.10.2019 um 10:57 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
>> 01.10.2019 3:09, John Snow wrote:
>>> Hi folks, I identified a problem with the migration code that Red Hat QE
>>> found and thought you'd like to see it:
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1652424#c20
>>>
>>> Very, very briefly: drive-mirror inserts a filter node that changes what
>>> bdrv_get_device_or_node_name() returns, which causes a migration problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ignorant question #1: Can we multi-parent the filter node and
>>> source-node? It looks like at the moment both consider their only parent
>>> to be the block-job and don't have a link back to their parents otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>> Otherwise: I have a lot of cloudy ideas on how to solve this, but
>>> ultimately what we want is to be able to find the "addressable" name for
>>> the node the bitmap is attached to, which would be the name of the first
>>> ancestor node that isn't a filter. (OR, the name of the block-backend
>>> above that node.)
>>
>>
>> Better would be to migrate by node-name only.. But am I right that
>> node-names are different on source and destination? Or this situation
>> changed?
> 
> Traditionally, I think migration assumes that frontends (guest devices)
> must match exactly, but backends may and usually will differ.
> 
> Of course, dirty bitmaps are a backend feature that isn't really related
> to guest devices, so this doesn't really work out any more in your case.
> BlockBackend names are unusable for this purpose (especially as we're
> moving towards anonymous BlockBackends everywhere), which I guess
> essentially means node-name is the only option left.
> 
> Is bitmap migration something that must be enabled explicitly or does
> it happen automatically? If it's explicit, then making an additional
> requirement (matching node-names) shouldn't be a problem.

The problem is that mirror filter is already in Rhel qemu and we have this bug,
but libvirt is not yet prepared to match node-name on migration, or am I wrong?

> 
>>> A simple way to do this might be a "child_unfiltered" BdrvChild role
>>> that simply bypasses the filter that was inserted and serves no real
>>> purpose other than to allow the child to have a parent link and find who
>>> it's """real""" parent is.
>>>
>>> Because of flushing, reopen, sync, drain &c &c &c I'm not sure how
>>> feasible this quick idea might be, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Corollary fix #1: call error_setg if the bitmap node name that's about
>>> to go over the wire is an autogenerated node: this is never correct!
>>>
>>> (Why not? because the target is incapable of matching the node-name
>>> because they are randomly generated AND you cannot specify node-names
>>> with # prefixes as they are especially reserved!
>>>
>>> (This raises a related problem: if you explicitly add bitmaps to nodes
>>> with autogenerated names, you will be unable to migrate them.))
>>>
>>
>> In other words, we need a well defined way to match nodes on source and destination,
>> keeping in mind filters, to migrate bitmaps correctly.
>>
>> Hm, did you thought about bitmaps in filters? It's not a problem to create bitmap in
>> mirror-top filter during mirror job:)
>>
>> Or what about bitmaps in Quorum children? Or what about bitmap in qcow2 file child bs?
>>
>> If node-names are different on source and destination, what is the same? Top blk name
>> and bdrv-children names (I recently saw Max's idea to check node "path" in iotest).
> 
> blk_name has to be assumed to be "". The BdrvChild path changes when
> filters are inserted (and inserting filters on the destination that
> aren't present on the source, or vice versa, sounds like something that
> should just work).

Skipping filters is not a problem until we don't want bitmaps in filters.

> 
> So both parts of this are not great ways for addressing nodes.

Not great, yes..

> 
>> So, actually node is migration-addressable, if path <blk-name>/root[/child-name] to the
>> defines this node directly (we must not have children with same name for some node in
>> the path).
>>
>> And I think it's a correct way to define node in migration stream - by path.
> 
> I'm afraid node-name is the only thing that could possibly work reliably
> for identifying nodes.
> 

Can we do it to fix bug in current Rhel's qemu? How much effort on libvirt part is needed?


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-01 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-01  0:09 bitmap migration bug with -drive while block mirror runs John Snow
2019-10-01  4:28 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01  9:07   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01  8:57 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01  9:54   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 10:05     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2019-10-01 13:24     ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01 15:09     ` John Snow
2019-10-01 15:58       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:12         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 16:24           ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:23         ` John Snow
2019-10-01 11:45   ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01  9:17 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:00 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:10   ` John Snow
2019-10-01 15:57     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 16:07       ` John Snow
2019-10-02  8:12         ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-02 10:46         ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-02 11:11           ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-02 12:22             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-02 13:48               ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-02 13:43             ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-02 14:03               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-02 21:35           ` John Snow
2019-10-03 10:14             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-03 23:34               ` John Snow
2019-10-04  8:33                 ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-04  9:21                   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-06  3:15                   ` John Snow
2019-10-04  9:24                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-04 13:07                   ` Eric Blake
2019-10-06  3:19                     ` John Snow
2019-10-01 16:16       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:17         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:13   ` Max Reitz
2019-10-01 14:27     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 14:34       ` Max Reitz
2019-10-01 14:53         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-10-01 15:26           ` Max Reitz
2019-10-02  7:34             ` Peter Krempa
2019-10-01 15:09         ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 15:27           ` Max Reitz
2019-10-01 16:12             ` Kevin Wolf
2019-10-01 16:17               ` Max Reitz
2019-10-01 16:22                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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