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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Denis Lunev <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	"mreitz@redhat.com" <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] block/raw-format: switch to BDRV_BLOCK_DATA with BDRV_BLOCK_RECURSE
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:28:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7fcab62a-ad7b-4105-7a23-76c46d8cee0f@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190813110428.GE4663@localhost.localdomain>

13.08.2019 14:04, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 12.08.2019 um 20:11 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
>> BDRV_BLOCK_RAW makes generic bdrv_co_block_status to fallthrough to
>> returned file. But is it correct behavior at all? If returned file
>> itself has a backing file, we may report as totally unallocated and
>> area which actually has data in bottom backing file.
>>
>> So, mirroring of qcow2 under raw-format is broken. Which is illustrated
>> by following commit with a test. Let's make raw-format behave more
>> correctly returning BDRV_BLOCK_DATA.
>>
>> Suggested-by: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
> 
> After some reading, I think I came to the conclusion that RAW is the
> correct thing to do. There is indeed a problem, but this patch is trying
> to fix it in the wrong place.
> 
> In the case where the backing file contains some data, and we have a
> 'raw' node above the qcow2 overlay node, the content of the respective
> block is not defined by the queried backing file layer, so it is
> completely correct that bdrv_is_allocated() returns false, like it would
> if you queried the qcow2 layer directly. If it returned true, we would
> copy everything, which isn't right either (the test cases should may add
> the qemu-img map output of the target so this becomes visible).
> 
> The problem is that we try to recurse along the backing chain, but we
> fail to make the step from the raw node to the backing file.

I'd say, the problem is that we ignore backing chain of non-backing child

> 
> Note that just extending Max's "deal with filters" is not enough to fix
> this because raw doesn't actually meet all of the criteria for being a
> filter in this sense (at least because the 'offset' option can change
> offsets between raw and its child).
> 
> I think this is essentially a result of special-casing backing files
> everywhere instead of treating them like children like any other.

But we need to special-case them, as we have interfaces operating on backing chain,

> bdrv_co_block_status_above() probably shouldn't recurse along the
> backing chain, but along the returned *file pointers, and consider the
> returned offset in *map.
> 

So, you mean that in case of unallocated, format layer should return it's backing file as file?
Then, maybe bdrv_co_block_status should not recurse at all?


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-13 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-12 18:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] deal with BDRV_BLOCK_RAW Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-12 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] block/raw-format: switch to BDRV_BLOCK_DATA with BDRV_BLOCK_RECURSE Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 11:04   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 11:28     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2019-08-13 12:01       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 13:21         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 14:46           ` Max Reitz
2019-08-13 14:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Max Reitz
2019-08-13 14:56       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 15:03         ` Max Reitz
2019-08-13 15:22           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 16:07             ` Max Reitz
2019-08-13 15:41       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 15:54         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 16:08           ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 16:32             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-14  6:27               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 16:21         ` Max Reitz
2019-08-12 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] iotests: test mirroring qcow2 under raw format Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13  9:10   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13  9:22     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13  9:36       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-12 19:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] deal with BDRV_BLOCK_RAW Max Reitz
2019-08-12 19:50   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-13  8:39     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13  9:01       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13  9:33         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 11:14           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 11:51             ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 13:00               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 14:31               ` Max Reitz
2019-08-13 14:46                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-13 14:53                   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-13 15:03                     ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 15:04                       ` Max Reitz
2019-08-13 14:50                 ` Eric Blake
2019-08-13  9:34   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-13 14:38     ` Max Reitz

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