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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>
Cc: "kwolf@redhat.com" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Denis Lunev <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	"libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"mreitz@redhat.com" <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:50:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84cf5182-9d3a-b54d-1bd0-b687b2fe662c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3e0c5d2-4c2f-0565-140d-b16c3e4a87b8@virtuozzo.com>



On 8/29/19 11:17 AM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> Aren't you going to deprecate and drop it at some moment?

Libvirt's going to keep supporting older versions of QEMU in perpetuity.
Apparently, there are still some barriers (SD cards?) to using only
blockdev API for new versions, too:

>> "Note that even with new qemu, if an SD card is used blockdev will be
>> disabled."

It sounds like we need to facilitate libvirt's transfer to an
all-blockdev API for modern QEMU instances. Once we do that, we can
likely add an introspectable feature flag to commands that create
formerly-implicit nodes to tip off libvirt as to what behavior it can
expect.

(In practice, if libvirt sees the new flag, it knows it needs to rely
exclusively on blockdev API and that (likely) it should always provide a
node-name for the filter.)

I think it is reasonably clear that deprecating and re-implementing is
not something that will be compatible with libvirt's feature detection,
so we shouldn't do it.

I'm still not sold that this is worth the effort, but you and Max would
know best right now. I'll leave it to you two to sort out.

--js



  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-29 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-14 10:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Deprecate implicit filters Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-14 10:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] qapi: deprecate drive-mirror and drive-backup Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-14 19:22   ` John Snow
2019-08-15  7:44     ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Peter Krempa
2019-08-15 21:24       ` John Snow
2019-08-14 10:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-14 19:27   ` John Snow
2019-08-14 20:34     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Maxim Levitsky
2019-08-15 10:49     ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2019-08-15 11:45       ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Peter Krempa
2019-08-15 14:04         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-29 16:45           ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-29 17:57             ` John Snow
2019-08-30 10:07               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-30 18:11                 ` John Snow
2019-09-02 12:04                   ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-22  8:41             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-11-22 11:32               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-15 16:07       ` [Qemu-devel] " John Snow
2019-08-15 16:48         ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-15 17:33           ` John Snow
2019-08-15 19:24           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-16  8:20             ` Kevin Wolf
2019-08-16 12:33               ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-16 12:58                 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-15 14:16     ` [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients (was: [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters) Markus Armbruster
2019-08-15 17:40       ` John Snow
2019-11-07 18:52         ` [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-11-07 19:13           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08  6:41             ` Deprecating stuff for 4.2 (was: [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients) Markus Armbruster
2019-11-08  9:36               ` Deprecating stuff for 4.2 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-08  8:35             ` [Qemu-devel] Exposing feature deprecation to machine clients Max Reitz
2019-08-29 15:59     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] qapi: deprecate implicit filters Christophe de Dinechin
2019-08-29 17:18       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2019-08-23  9:22   ` [Qemu-devel] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-27 20:12     ` John Snow
2019-08-28  9:20       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-28 17:48         ` John Snow
2019-08-29 14:44           ` Peter Krempa
2019-08-29 15:17             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-29 17:50               ` John Snow [this message]
2019-08-29 15:00           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-29 15:16             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-09-02 12:14     ` Kevin Wolf

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