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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	David Alan Gilbert <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	QEMU <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] console: make QMP screendump use coroutine
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 15:22:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imjm96qy.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+F1CKbZiVk0DCQxMojxu8FyEskg5Cw32B08Vi9emaEMw79fQ@mail.gmail.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Marc-Andr=C3=A9?= Lureau"'s message of "Mon, 24 Feb 2020 17:20:33 +0100")

Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 5:50 PM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > Am 20.02.2020 um 17:01 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
>> >> >> >  void qmp_screendump(const char *filename, bool has_device, const char *device,
>> >> >> >                      bool has_head, int64_t head, Error **errp)
>> >> >> >  {
>> >> >> >      QemuConsole *con;
>> >> >> >      DisplaySurface *surface;
>> >> >> > +    g_autoptr(pixman_image_t) image = NULL;
>> >> >> >      int fd;
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >      if (has_device) {
>> >> >> > @@ -365,7 +375,15 @@ void qmp_screendump(const char *filename, bool has_device, const char *device,
>> >> >> >          }
>> >> >> >      }
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -    graphic_hw_update(con);
>> >> >> > +    if (qemu_in_coroutine()) {
>> >> >> > +        assert(!con->screendump_co);
>> >> >> > +        con->screendump_co = qemu_coroutine_self();
>> >> >> > +        aio_bh_schedule_oneshot(qemu_get_aio_context(),
>> >> >> > +                                graphic_hw_update_bh, con);
>> >> >> > +        qemu_coroutine_yield();
>> >> >> > +        con->screendump_co = NULL;
>> >> >> > +    }
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What if multiple QMP monitors simultaneously screendump?  Hmm, it works
>> >> >> because all execute one after another in the same coroutine
>> >> >> qmp_dispatcher_co.  Implicit mutual exclusion.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Executing them one after another is bad, because it lets an ill-behaved
>> >> >> QMP command starve *all* QMP monitors.  We do it only out of
>> >> >> (reasonable!) fear of implicit mutual exclusion requirements like the
>> >> >> one you add.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let's not add more if we can help it.
>> >> >
>> >> > The situation is not worse than the current blocking handling.
>> >>
>> >> Really?
>> >>
>> >> What makes executing multiple qmp_screendump() concurrently (in separate
>> >> threads) or interleaved (in separate coroutines in the same thread)
>> >> unsafe before this patch?
>> >
>> > QMP command handlers are guaranteed to run in the main thread with the
>> > BQL held, so there is no concurrency. If you want to change this, you
>> > would have much more complicated problems to solve than in this handler.
>> > I'm not sure it's fair to require thread-safety from one handler when
>> > no other handler is thread safe (except accidentally) and nobody seems
>> > to plan actually calling them from multiple threads.
>>
>> "Let's not [...] if we can help it." is hardly a "change this or else no
>> merge" demand.  It is a challenge to find a more elegant solution.
>>
>> >> >> Your screendump_co is per QemuConsole instead of per QMP monitor only
>> >> >> because you need to find the coroutine in graphic_hw_update_done().  Can
>> >> >> we somehow pass it via function arguments?
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it could be done later, so I suggest a TODO.
>> >>
>> >> We should avoid making our dependence on implicit mutual exclusion
>> >> worse.  When we do it anyway, a big, fat, ugly comment is definitely
>> >> called for.
>> >
>> > Anyway, what I really wanted to add:
>> >
>> > This should be easy to solve by having a CoQueue instead of a single
>>
>> Ah, challenge accepted!  Exactly the outcome I was hoping for :)
>>
>> > Coroutine pointer. The coroutine would just call qemu_co_queue_wait(),
>> > which adds itself to the queue before it yields and the update
>> > completion would wake up all coroutines that are currently queued with
>> > qemu_co_queue_restart_all().
>> >
>> > qemu_co_queue_wait() takes a lock as its second parameter. You don't
>> > need it in this context and can just pass NULL. (This is a lock that
>> > would be dropped while the coroutine is sleeping and automatically
>> > reacquired afterwards.)
>> >
>> >> >> In case avoiding the mutual exclusion is impractical: please explain it
>> >> >> in a comment to make it somewhat less implicit.
>> >>
>> >> It is anything but: see appended patch.
>> >
>> > This works, too, but it requires an additional struct. I think the queue
>> > is easier. (Note there is a difference in the mechanism: Your patch
>> > waits for the specific update it triggered, while the CoQueue would wait
>> > for _any_ update to complete. I assume effectively the result is the
>> > same.)
>>
>> Your idea sounds much nicer to me.  Thanks!
>
> Similar to the NULL check you asked to remove,
> having a CoQueue there would lead to think that several concurrently
> running screendump are possible.
>
> Is this a direction we are willing to take?

Let's take a step back.

The actual problem is to find the coroutine in graphic_hw_update_done(),
so you can wake it.

Your solution stores the coroutine in the QemuConsole, because that's
readily available in graphic_hw_update_done().

However, it really, really doesn't belong there, it belongs to the
monitor.  Works anyway only because QMP commands execute one after the
other.

Kevin suggested using a CoQueue to avoid this unspoken dependency.  You
object, because it could make readers assume multiple screendump
commands could run concurrently, which is not the case.

Alright, let's KISS: since there's just one main loop, there's just one
coroutine: @qmp_dispatcher_co.  Let's use that, so the dependency on
"one command after the other" is explicit and obvious.

[...]



  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-02 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-13 14:48 [PATCH] console: make QMP screendump use coroutine Marc-André Lureau
2020-01-13 16:32 ` no-reply
2020-01-13 16:36 ` no-reply
2020-02-12 12:29 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-02-13 13:10   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-20  7:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-20  9:43   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-02-20 16:01     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-20 20:11       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-21  6:31         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-21 10:25           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-21 10:07       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-21 16:50         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-24 16:20           ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-03-02 14:22             ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2020-03-02 15:36               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-03-03  7:41                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-03 10:56                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-03-03 14:47                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-03 16:03                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-03-06  8:44                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-06 10:03                       ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-03-11 12:16                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-05 14:41 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-03-05 15:08   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-03-06  5:56     ` Markus Armbruster

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