From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D286CA9EA0 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48A132084C for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="fzc5ch4H" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 48A132084C Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:59640 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzDy-0001q0-2n for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:01:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzBR-0007HX-RL for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:59:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzBP-00055V-D1 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:59:13 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com ([205.139.110.61]:57864 helo=us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iNzBP-00054w-8f for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:59:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1572008349; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=q9Y6LUXciH6BCTmUCMR8bKcp8kmPSCpLDikZ75REqyU=; b=fzc5ch4HOUTtTWxogFCLcJHOxPDFtlRqH4I5ZqvKkYipuSTPZEAewar0Hc10G5g6gqigd/ e3UjuhC6MlasJAG0j/6M4pNaLjWo5ZIA4V6yPBus4XHnj0/sZqfSQe1KrxtGIfo5jsnYqt C+qOZ8JXF+yjY04gB0byB/xsOU+dLZ0= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-288-idP2yN5rOfuzZAtdxPArsw-1; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:59:06 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DE24107AD31; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 12:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blackfin.pond.sub.org (unknown [10.36.118.123]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE4765DD64; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 12:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blackfin.pond.sub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 59E341138619; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:59:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Armbruster To: Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= Subject: Re: [PULL v2 00/73] tcg plugins and testing updates References: <20191025063713.23374-1-alex.bennee@linaro.org> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:59:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20191025063713.23374-1-alex.bennee@linaro.org> ("Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e=22's?= message of "Fri, 25 Oct 2019 07:36:00 +0100") Message-ID: <87lft9rnfs.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.14 X-MC-Unique: idP2yN5rOfuzZAtdxPArsw-1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 205.139.110.61 X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" I hate to interfere with the merging of working code for non-technical reasons.... This is a plugin interface. As I wrote in reply to v4, I'd like to see a pragmatic argument why abuse of the plugin interface to circumvent the GPL is not practical. This might include "not a stable interface", "you have to link with a truckload of gpl code", "the set of things you can do is deliberately extremely limited". Perhaps such an argument is made somewhere in these 73 patches already. I admit to not having read them all :) In the TCG plugin design document perhaps? Assuming it exists... I proposed discussing the project's requirements for external interfaces on GPL circumvention deterrence at the QEMU Summit next week. If merging this could be delayed until the licensing ramifications have become a bit more clear, I'd be obliged.