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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Daniel P . Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Luigi Rizzo" <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Vincenzo Maffione" <v.maffione@gmail.com>,
	"Giuseppe Lettieri" <giuseppe.lettieri@unipi.it>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Giuseppe Lettieri" <g.lettieri@iet.unipi.it>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netmap: support git-submodule build otption
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 12:49:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pnj8ltih.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA8ut__ruS4yEMT7-qCKu+BFihFwhaNoq7L1cdoqxpXx6g@mail.gmail.com> (Peter Maydell's message of "Fri, 4 Oct 2019 14:08:36 +0100")

Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:

D> On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 14:03, Giuseppe Lettieri <g.lettieri@iet.unipi.it> wrote:
>>
>> From: Giuseppe Lettieri <giuseppe.lettieri@unipi.it>
>>
>> With this patch, netmap support can be enabled with
>> the following options to the configure script:
>>
>>   --enable-netmap[=system]
>>
>>         Use the host system netmap installation.
>>         Fail if not found.
>>
>>   --enable-netmap=git
>>
>>         clone the official netmap repository on
>>         github (mostly useful for CI)
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Giuseppe Lettieri <giuseppe.lettieri@unipi.it>
>> ---
>>  .gitmodules |  3 +++
>>  configure   | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
>>  2 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/.gitmodules b/.gitmodules
>> index c5c474169d..bf75dbc5e3 100644
>> --- a/.gitmodules
>> +++ b/.gitmodules
>> @@ -58,3 +58,6 @@
>>  [submodule "roms/opensbi"]
>>         path = roms/opensbi
>>         url =   https://git.qemu.org/git/opensbi.git
>> +[submodule "netmap"]
>> +       path = netmap
>> +       url = https://github.com/luigirizzo/netmap.git
>
> Hi; this patch seems to be missing the rationale for why
> we want to do this. New submodules:
>  * should always be on git.qemu.org (we need to mirror them
> in case the original upstream vanishes)
>  * need a strong justification for why they're required
> (ie why we can't just use whatever the system-provided
> version of the library is, or fall back to not providing
> the feature if the library isn't present)
>
> Basically new submodules are a pain so we seek to minimize
> the use of them.

I suggested making it a submodule upthread[*].  Let me try to distill
the conversation into a rationale.  Giuseppe, please correct mistakes.

To make use of QEMU's netmap backend (CONFIG_NETMAP), you have to build
and install netmap software from sources[**].  Which pretty much ensures
developers compile with CONFIG_NETMAP off, and the code rots.

For other dependencies that aren't readily available on common
development hosts (slirp, capstone), we use submodules to avoid such
rot.  If the system provides, we use that, and if it doesn't, we fall
back to the submodule.  This has served us well.

For netmap, falling back to the submodule when the host doesn't provide
tends not to be useful beyond compile-testing.  Because of that, we fall
back only when the user explicitly asks for it by passing
--enable-netmap=git to configure.  CI should do that.



[*] Message-ID: <87blwzho1y.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

[**] FreeBSD hosts may be an exception; I'm not sure.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-07 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-06 15:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/29] include: Make headers more self-contained Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:03   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 19:45     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:28       ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-08  4:21         ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/29] Include generated QAPI headers less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:50   ` Eric Blake
2019-08-07  9:53   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/29] qapi: Split error.json off common.json Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:57   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/29] memory: Fix type of IOMMUMemoryRegionClass member @parent_class Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 10:16     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/29] queue: Drop superfluous #include qemu/atomic.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:21   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 15:40   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/29] trace: Eliminate use of TARGET_FMT_plx Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:29   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/29] trace: Do not include qom/cpu.h into generated trace.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  9:32   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 10:30     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/29] Include sysemu/reset.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:38   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/29] Include migration/qemu-file-types.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:25   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:30     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 19:46       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/29] ide: Include hw/ide/internal a bit less outside hw/ide/ Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:40   ` John Snow
2019-08-07 12:29     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 14:56       ` John Snow
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/29] typedefs: Separate incomplete types and function types Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 12:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 12/29] Include hw/irq.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 21:06     ` Eric Blake
2019-08-08  4:27       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  5:09         ` Richard Henderson
2019-08-08 11:48         ` Eric Blake
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 13/29] Clean up inclusion of exec/cpu-common.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:20   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 14/29] migration: Move the VMStateDescription typedef to typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:22   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 17:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 15/29] Include migration/vmstate.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 11:36     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 16/29] Include exec/memory.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 14:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 12:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 12:36       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 17/29] Include qom/object.h " Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 18/29] Include hw/hw.h exactly where needed Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 19/29] Include qemu/queue.h slightly less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:57   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 20/29] Include qemu/main-loop.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 13:18   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:49     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 21/29] Include hw/qdev-properties.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 22/29] Include hw/boards.h a bit less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:37   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 17:26   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 17:57     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-07 18:05       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 18:19         ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-08-08 11:57           ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 23/29] numa: Don't include hw/boards.h into sysemu/numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 24/29] Include sysemu/hostmem.h less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 25/29] numa: Move remaining NUMA declarations from sysemu.h to numa.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 26/29] Clean up inclusion of sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:36   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07 15:47   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:10     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 14:21       ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 21:38   ` Alistair Francis
2019-08-07  9:28   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-07 13:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 13:51     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 17:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-07 20:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 21:05       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08  4:48         ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  5:38           ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? Jason Wang
2019-08-08 13:36             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 17:27               ` Vincenzo Maffione
2019-08-08  7:27           ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-08-08 11:52             ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-12 12:32               ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-12 12:34                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-09-02 20:50                 ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-13 13:04                   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-09-16 14:45                     ` Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-09-23 11:21                       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-04 13:02                         ` [PATCH] netmap: support git-submodule build otption Giuseppe Lettieri
2019-10-04 13:08                           ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 10:49                             ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2019-10-07 11:58                               ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-07 12:35                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 12:39                                   ` Peter Maydell
2019-10-08  9:17                                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-10-08 11:57                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:37                                   ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-07 17:53                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-10-07 15:44                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08  8:12           ` [Qemu-devel] Is network backend netmap worth keeping? (was: [PATCH v2 27/29] Include sysemu/sysemu.h a lot less) Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-07 18:21           ` Is network backend vde worth keeping? (was: Is network backend netmap worth keeping?) Markus Armbruster
2019-10-09  9:13             ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-11  6:55               ` Thomas Huth
2019-10-10 17:07             ` Julia Suvorova
2019-10-10 17:39             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 28/29] sysemu: Move the VMChangeStateEntry typedef to qemu/typedefs.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 15:26   ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:19     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-06 15:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 29/29] sysemu: Split sysemu/runstate.h off sysemu/sysemu.h Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07  4:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-07 10:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-08-06 16:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/29] Tame a few "touch this, recompile the world" headers no-reply
2019-08-06 16:56 ` no-reply
2019-08-07 16:32 ` Alex Bennée
2019-08-07 20:21   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-08-08 13:21   ` Markus Armbruster

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