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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL 18/18] qapi: move RTC_CHANGE to the target schema
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2021 15:35:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfxup03r.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA8mMzzgKyDbUUTh+W0r=5C0_HJv+7MMZ3Rdx-E2vcsRZA@mail.gmail.com> (Peter Maydell's message of "Fri, 24 Sep 2021 13:39:29 +0100")

Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:

> On Fri, 24 Sept 2021 at 13:21, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>> ... this isn't really *target*-specific, it's *device*-specific: some
>> devices implement the event, some don't.
>>
>> Ideally, we'd just fix that.
>
> Would you want to tell the far end "this machine simply does
> not have an RTC device at all (because the hardware it's emulating
> doesn't have one) and so you won't get RTC_CHANGE events" ?

Well, RTC_CHANGE is "Emitted when the guest changes the RTC time."  If
the guest doesn't *have* an RTC...

> A good first step for getting more devices to implement the
> RTC_CHANGE support would be if there was any documentation on how
> to do it. The JSON schema says the offset should be "offset between
> base RTC clock (as specified by -rtc base), and new RTC clock value",
> but there aren't any hints (either there or elsewhere) as to how a
> device is supposed to determine that value, and there's no
> documentation of what the behaviour or intent is of the
> qemu_timedate_diff() function that the existing implementations
> use to calculate the offset.

RTC_CHANGE is from the bad old times, I'm afraid:

    commit 80cd34787fc0fc31b1a341c7b8d8e729c1b6ea58
    Author: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
    Date:   Thu Feb 25 12:11:44 2010 -0300

        QMP: Introduce RTC_CHANGE event

        Emitted whenever the RTC time changes.

        Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
        Signed-off-by: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>

No hint at why or how to use it.

I figure this is the matching libvirt commit:

    commit 32e6ac9c2601e19715d18f743cf805a3466d3385
    Author: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
    Date:   Thu Mar 18 18:28:15 2010 +0000

        Add support for an explicit  RTC change event

        This introduces a new event type

           VIR_DOMAIN_EVENT_ID_RTC_CHANGE

        This event includes the new UTC offset measured in seconds.
        Thus there is a new callback definition for this event type

         typedef void (*virConnectDomainEventRTCChangeCallback)(virConnectPtr conn,
                                                                virDomainPtr dom,
                                                                long long utcoffset,
                                                                void *opaque);

        If the guest XML configuration for the <clock> is set to
        offset='variable', then the XML will automatically be
        updated with the new UTC offset value. This ensures that
        during migration/save/restore the new offset is preserved.

        * daemon/remote.c: Dispatch RTC change events to client
        * examples/domain-events/events-c/event-test.c: Watch for
          RTC change events
        * include/libvirt/libvirt.h.in: Define new RTC change event ID
          and callback signature
        * src/conf/domain_event.c, src/conf/domain_event.h,
          src/libvirt_private.syms: Extend API to handle RTC change events
        * src/qemu/qemu_driver.c: Connect to the QEMU monitor event
          for RTC changes and emit a libvirt RTC change event
        * src/remote/remote_driver.c: Receive and dispatch RTC change
          events to application
        * src/remote/remote_protocol.x: Wire protocol definition for
          RTC change events
        * src/qemu/qemu_monitor.c, src/qemu/qemu_monitor.h,
          src/qemu/qemu_monitor_json.c: Watch for RTC_CHANGE event
          from QEMU monitor

Suggests it might be needed for migration.

How today's libvirt uses RTC_CHANGE would be good to know.  I don't have
the time to ferret it out myself.  Daniel, do you know?  If not, who
else might?

> Side note: probably the JSON schema should document the units
> for 'offset'. Code inspection suggests it wants seconds.

Doc bug, patch would be lovely.

> Side side note: the JSON event doesn't seem to contemplate
> the possibility that a machine might have more than one RTC...

Right.  It clearly needs an additional member @qom-path identifying the
RTC device.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-24 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-18 14:05 [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/18] QAPI patches for 2019-02-18 Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 01/18] qapi: Belatedly document modular code generation Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/18] qapi: Fix up documentation for recent commit a95291007b2 Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 03/18] qapi: Clean up modular built-in code generation a bit Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 04/18] qapi: Prepare for system modules other than 'builtin' Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 05/18] qapi: Generate QAPIEvent stuff into separate files Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 06/18] build-sys: move qmp-introspect per target Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 07/18] build: Deal with all of QAPI's .o in qapi/Makefile.objs Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 08/18] qapi: New module target.json Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 09/18] qapi: make rtc-reset-reinjection and SEV depend on TARGET_I386 Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 10/18] qapi: make s390 commands depend on TARGET_S390X Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 11/18] target.json: add a note about query-cpu* not being s390x-specific Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 12/18] qapi: make query-gic-capabilities depend on TARGET_ARM Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 13/18] qapi: make query-cpu-model-expansion depend on s390 or x86 Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 14/18] qapi: make query-cpu-definitions depend on specific targets Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 15/18] qapi: remove qmp_unregister_command() Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 16/18] Revert "qapi-events: add 'if' condition to implicit event enum" Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 17/18] qmp: Deprecate query-events in favor of query-qmp-schema Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 18/18] qapi: move RTC_CHANGE to the target schema Markus Armbruster
2021-09-23 13:14   ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-23 13:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-09-24 12:21     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-24 12:28       ` Marc-André Lureau
2021-09-24 12:40         ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-24 12:39       ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-24 13:35         ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-09-24 14:42           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-24 15:02             ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-25  7:39               ` Markus Armbruster
2019-02-18 16:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 00/18] QAPI patches for 2019-02-18 Peter Maydell

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