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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Debian QEMU Team <pkg-qemu-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	dann frazier <dannf@debian.org>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-for-5.0] roms/edk2-funcs.sh: Use available GCC for ARM/Aarch64 targets
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 06:07:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <92dfa7c7-1001-09bf-18fc-f449136be248@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83c551c4-bec0-1a42-4605-d32f6430697e@redhat.com>

On 12/5/19 8:35 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 12/05/19 17:50, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 16:27, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/5/19 5:13 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>
>>>> (+Ard)
>>>>
>>>> On 12/04/19 23:12, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>>>> Centos 7.7 only provides cross GCC 4.8.5, but the script forces
>>>>> us to use GCC5. Since the same machinery is valid to check the
>>>>> GCC version, remove the $emulation_target check.
>>>>>
>>>>>     $ cat /etc/redhat-release
>>>>>     CentOS Linux release 7.7.1908 (Core)
>>>>>
>>>>>     $ aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc -v 2>&1 | tail -1
>>>>>     gcc version 4.8.5 20150623 (Red Hat 4.8.5-16) (GCC)
>>>>
>>>> this patch is not correct, in my opinion. ARM / AARCH64 support in edk2
>>>> requires GCC5 as a minimum. It was never tested with an earlier
>>>> toolchain, to my understanding. Not on my part, anyway.
>>>>
>>>> To be more precise: when I tested cross-gcc toolchains earlier than
>>>> that, the ArmVirtQemu builds always failed. Minimally, those toolchains
>>>> didn't recognize some of the AARCH64 system registers.
>>>>
>>>> If CentOS 7.7 does not provide a suitable (>=GCC5) toolchain, then we
>>>> can't build ArmVirtQemu binaries on CentOS 7.7, in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, on my RHEL7 laptop, over time I've used the following
>>>> toolchains, to satisfy the GCC5 requirement of ArmVirtQemu (which
>>>> requirement I took as experimental evidence):
>>>>
>>>> - Initially (last quarter of 2014), I used binary distributions --
>>>>     tarballs -- of cross-binutils and cross-gcc, from Linaro.
>>>>
>>>> - Later (last quarter of 2016), I rebuilt some SRPMs that were at the
>>>>     time Fedora-only for RHEL7. Namely:
>>>>
>>>>     - cross-binutils-2.27-3.fc24
>>>>       https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=801348
>>>>
>>>>     - gcc-6.1.1-2.fc24
>>>>       https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=761767
>>>>
>>>> - Most recently, I've been using cross-binutils updated from EPEL7:
>>>>
>>>>     - cross-binutils-2.27-9.el7.1
>>>>       https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=918474
>>>>
>>>> To my knowledge, there is still no suitable cross-compiler available on
>>>> RHEL7, from any trustworthy RPM repository. So, to this day, I use
>>>> gcc-6.1.1-2 for cross-building ArmVirtQemu, on my RHEL7 laptop.
>>>>
>>>> Again: I believe it does not matter if the gcc-4.8.5-based
>>>> cross-compiler in CentOS 7 "happens" to work. That's a compiler that I
>>>> have never tested with, or vetted for, upstream ArmVirtQemu.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I realize that in edk2, we have stuff like
>>>>
>>>>     GCC48_AARCH64_CC_FLAGS
>>>>
>>>> in "BaseTools/Conf/tools_def.template" -- coming from commit
>>>> 7a9dbf2c94d1 ("BaseTools/Conf/tools_def.template: drop ARM/AARCH support
>>>> from GCC46/GCC47", 2019-01-08). That doesn't change the fact that I've
>>>> never built or tested ArmVirtQemu with such a compiler. And so this
>>>> patch makes me quite uncomfortable.
>>>>
>>>> If that rules out CentOS 7 as a QEMU project build / CI platform for the
>>>> bundled ArmVirtQemu binaries, then we need a more recent platform
>>>> (perhaps CentOS 8, not sure).
>>>
>>> Unfortunately CentOS 8 is not available as a Docker image, which is a
>>> convenient way to build EDK2 in a CI.
>>>
>>>> I think it's also educational to check the origin of the code that your
>>>> patch proposes to remove. Most recently it was moved around from a
>>>> different place, in QEMU commit 65a109ab4b1a ('roms: lift
>>>> "edk2-funcs.sh" from "tests/uefi-test-tools/build.sh"', 2019-04-17).
>>>>
>>>> In that commit, for some reason I didn't keep the original code comments
>>>> (perhaps it would have been too difficult or messy to preserve the
>>>> comments sanely with the restructured / factored-out code). But, they
>>>> went like this (originally from commit 77db55fc8155,
>>>> "tests/uefi-test-tools: add build scripts", 2019-02-21):
>>>>
>>>> # Expose cross_prefix (which is possibly empty) to the edk2 tools. While at it,
>>>> # determine the suitable edk2 toolchain as well.
>>>> # - For ARM and AARCH64, edk2 only offers the GCC5 toolchain tag, which covers
>>>> #   the gcc-5+ releases.
>>>> # - For IA32 and X64, edk2 offers the GCC44 through GCC49 toolchain tags, in
>>>> #   addition to GCC5. Unfortunately, the mapping between the toolchain tags and
>>>> #   the actual gcc releases isn't entirely trivial. Run "git-blame" on
>>>> #   "OvmfPkg/build.sh" in edk2 for more information.
>>>> # And, because the above is too simple, we have to assign cross_prefix to an
>>>> # edk2 build variable that is specific to both the toolchain tag and the target
>>>> # architecture.
>>>>
>>>> So... unless Ard feels it is really totally safe to retro-actively rely
>>>> on the gcc-4.8.5-based compiler in CentOS 7, I'd rather we picked a more
>>>> recent build platform (OS) instead. For example, we build ArmVirtQemu on
>>>> RHEL8 regularly, so that's a reality-based "plus" for CentOS 8.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Independently of all of the above, the OVMF toolchain selection logic
>>>> that this patch proposes to reuse with ArmVirtQemu, is *really*
>>>> x86-specific. Please run "git blame" on "OvmfPkg/build.sh" in upstream
>>>> edk2, to see where the various branches come from (as the comments in
>>>> this shell script suggest as well). There had been mess like commit
>>>> 656ac0c7d8ea ('Revert "OvmfPkg/build.sh: select the GCC49 toolchain
>>>> settings for gcc-7.*"', 2017-08-25).
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the pointers, very educative indeed :)
>>>
>>> I'll see other setups I can use with GCC5+ available.
>>>
>>> I still have to figure if there are free tier CI with less limitations
>>> than Travis/Shippable/GitLab, so we can keep the full EDK2 build output log.
>>>
>>
>> My CI job for ArmVirtQemu/EDK2 build tested GCC48 and GCC49 until very
>> recently, and I never experienced any issues when running those
>> images, although it's been much longer that I actually tried that. So
>> I wouldn't recommend against it, and if we do identify any issues, we
>> should either deprecate GCC48 (for ArmVirtQemu or for AArch64
>> altogether) or fix them.

FYI Debian/Ubuntu apparently force to GCC49:
https://salsa.debian.org/qemu-team/edk2/blob/debian/debian/rules#L9

> 
> OK, thank you, I'm fully satisfied with this addition. :)
> 
> Phil, in this case I think we can indeed replace the hard-coded "GCC5"
> with a bit of dynamic detection. Two remarks:
> 
> - Please CC Ard on v2, so he can ACK. I'd like that. :)
> 
> - Again, we shouldn't blindly reapply the x86 (OVMF) quirk(s). I mean
> mainly the special casing of "6.[0-2].*" to GCC49, which comes from
> upstream edk2 commit 432f1d83f77a ("OvmfPkg/build.sh: Use GCC49
> toolchains with GCC 6.[0-2]", 2016-12-06).
> 
> ... or is that GCC bug target-independent in fact? I can't really tell;
> the upstream GCC bug
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=70955> is ISA-specific
> (x86-64), and so are function calling conventions.
> 
> I'd suggest *not* applying the quirk for ArmVirtQemu, initially.
> 
> Thanks
> Laszlo
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-06  5:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-04 22:12 [PATCH-for-5.0] roms/edk2-funcs.sh: Use available GCC for ARM/Aarch64 targets Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-05 16:13 ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-12-05 16:27   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-05 16:47     ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-12-05 17:04       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-12-05 16:50     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-12-05 19:35       ` Laszlo Ersek
2019-12-06  5:07         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2019-12-08 17:44           ` dann frazier

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