From: Andrew Melnichenko <andrew@daynix.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Yuri Benditovich" <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
"Yan Vugenfirer" <yan@daynix.com>,
"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] ebpf: Added ebpf helper for libvirtd.
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 16:01:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABcq3pHAWuNuuiUgVhx7qXRorBSistct8X4pCNEYdJ0SuLJCWw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im26qn9q.fsf@toke.dk>
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Hi,
Thank you for your comments.
I'll play with array type mmap. And later will provide some solution.
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:09 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>
wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:25:19AM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> >> Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > 在 2021/6/22 上午11:29, Yuri Benditovich 写道:
> >> >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:20 PM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 在 2021/6/19 上午4:03, Andrew Melnichenko 写道:
> >> >>>> Hi Jason,
> >> >>>> I've checked "kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled=0" on Fedora,
> Ubuntu,
> >> >>>> and Debian - no need permissions to update BPF maps.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How about RHEL :) ?
> >> >> If I'm not mistaken, the RHEL releases do not use modern kernels yet
> >> >> (for BPF we need 5.8+).
> >> >> So this will be (probably) relevant for RHEL 9. Please correct me if
> I'm wrong.
> >> >
> >> > Adding Toke for more ideas on this.
> >>
> >> Ignore the kernel version number; we backport all of BPF to RHEL,
> >> basically. RHEL8.4 is up to upstream kernel 5.10, feature-wise.
> >>
> >> However, we completely disable unprivileged BPF on RHEL kernels. Also,
> >> there's upstream commit:
> >> 08389d888287 ("bpf: Add kconfig knob for disabling unpriv bpf by
> default")
> >>
> >> which adds a new value of '2' to the unprivileged_bpf_disable sysctl. I
> >> believe this may end up being the default on Fedora as well.
> >>
> >> So any design relying on unprivileged BPF is likely to break; I'd
> >> suggest you look into how you can get this to work with CAP_BPF :)
> >
> > QEMU will never have any capabilities. Any resources that required
> > privileges have to be opened by a separate privileged helper, and the
> > open FD then passed across to the QEMU process. This relies on the
> > capabilities checks only being performed at time of initial opening,
> > and *not* on operations performed on the already open FD.
>
> That won't work for regular map updates either, unfortunately: you still
> have to perform a bpf() syscall to update an element, and that is a
> privileged operation.
>
> You may be able to get around this by using an array map type and
> mmap()'ing the map contents, but I'm not sure how well that will work
> across process boundaries.
>
> If it doesn't, I only see two possibilities: populate the map
> ahead-of-time and leave it in place, or keep the privileged helper
> process around to perform map updates on behalf of QEMU...
>
> -Toke
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-22 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-09 10:04 [RFC PATCH 0/5] ebpf: Added ebpf helper for libvirtd Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] ebpf: Added eBPF initialization by fds Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] virtio-net: Added property to load eBPF RSS with fds Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] ebpf_rss_helper: Added helper for eBPF RSS Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] qmp: Added qemu-ebpf-rss-path command Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-11 14:15 ` Eric Blake
2021-06-11 17:21 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-12 5:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-06-15 23:16 ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-07-05 13:50 ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-09 10:04 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] meson: libbpf dependency now exclusively for Linux Andrew Melnychenko
2021-06-10 6:41 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] ebpf: Added ebpf helper for libvirtd Jason Wang
2021-06-10 6:55 ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-06-11 5:36 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-11 16:49 ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-11 17:24 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-15 9:13 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-15 22:18 ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-18 20:03 ` Andrew Melnichenko
2021-06-21 9:20 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22 3:29 ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-06-22 4:58 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-22 8:25 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-22 8:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-06-22 9:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-22 13:01 ` Andrew Melnichenko [this message]
2021-06-22 13:17 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-23 0:47 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-28 11:18 ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-06-29 3:39 ` Jason Wang
2021-06-30 16:40 ` Andrew Melnichenko
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