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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x <qemu-s390x@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael Mueller" <mimu@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Jiri Denemark" <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
	"Janosch Frank" <frankja@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] s390x/cpumodel: Introduce "best" model variants
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 10:59:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA-o_emMYWyewLD3Pn65pGrqW=5qy=+PqAED75JeSTLTxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3aa1d025-20a3-e813-2fe6-35518efedf2f@redhat.com>

On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 10:56, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 18.11.19 11:53, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 10:47, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> My personal opinion: "max" really means "all features". If we want an
> >> automatic way to specify something you requested ("give me something
> >> that's going to work") we either have to change the definition of the
> >> max model for alla rchitectures or introduce something that really
> >> matches the "no -cpu specified" - e.g., "best".
> >
> > I don't strongly object to 'max' including deprecated features,
> > but I do definitely object to 'max' including by default any
> > experimental (x- prefix) features. Those should never be
> > enabled (whatever the '-cpu foo' name) unless the user has
> > specifically opted into them: that's the point of the x- prefix.
> > We need to be able to tell from the command line whether it's
> > got any non-standard weirdness enabled.
>
> I'll let Eduardo respond to that, as we don't really have experimental
> features on s390x, especially under KVM ("host" corresponds to "max").

Yeah, I would expect that if the kernel has fixed the KVM
interface to a feature then it wouldn't be experimental.
Experimental mostly will apply to TCG, where we might
have implementations based on a draft version of an
architecture specification (like the riscv hypervisor spec)
that could incompatibly change in future.

thanks
-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-18 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-08 11:07 [PATCH v1 0/2] s390x/cpumodel: Introduce "best" model variants David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08 11:07 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] s390x/cpumodels: Factor out CPU feature dependencies David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08 11:07 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] s390x/cpumodel: Introduce "best" model variants David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08 19:51   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-08 21:18     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08 11:10 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] " Peter Maydell
2019-11-08 12:46   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08 13:02     ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-08 19:10       ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-08 22:58         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-09 16:07         ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-18 10:47           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-18 10:53             ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-18 10:56               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-18 10:59                 ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2019-11-18 18:49                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-18 21:19                   ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-18 22:04                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-19  9:22                       ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-19  9:58                         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-19 10:36                           ` Peter Maydell
2019-11-19 11:00                             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-19 19:42                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-20 10:28                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-20 14:04                                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-11-20 14:21                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-08 16:59 ` no-reply

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