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From: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, QEMU <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/25] monitor: add asynchronous command type
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 20:28:12 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ+F1CLSfYPFPych4twnvOMt3qR4UnGauWq_k=VN8W5kKUze9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191213160330.GD3428@localhost.localdomain>

Hi

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:04 PM Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Am 08.11.2019 um 16:00 hat Marc-André Lureau geschrieben:
> > The following series implements an internal async command solution
> > instead. By introducing a session context and a command return
> > handler, QMP handlers can:
> > - defer the return, allowing the mainloop to reenter
> > - return only to the caller (instead of the broadcast event reply)
> > - optionnally allow cancellation when the client is gone
> > - track on-going qapi command(s) per session
>
> This requires major changes to existing QMP command handlers. Did you
> consider at least optionally providing a way where instead of using the
> new async_fn, QMP already creates a coroutine in which the handler is
> executed?

Yes, but I don't see how this could be done without the basic callback
infrastructure I propose here. Also forcing existing code to be
translated to coroutine-aware is probably even more complicated.

>
> At least for some of the block layer commands, we could simply enable
> this without changing any of the code and would automatically get rid of
> blocking the guest while the command is doing I/O. If we need to
> implement .async_fn, in contrast, it would be quite a bit of boiler
> plate code for each single handler to create a coroutine for the real
> handler and to wrap all parameters in a struct.

We could have the generator do that for you eventually, and spawn the coroutine.

>
> I started playing a bit with this and it didn't look too bad, but we
> can't move every command handler to a coroutine without auditing it, so
> I would have had to add a new option to the QAPI schema - and at that
> point I thought that I might end up duplicating a lot of your code if I
> continued. So I'm now trying to get your opinion or advice before I
> continue with anything in that direction.

thanks for looking at this old series!

>
> > This does not introduce new QMP APIs or client visible changes, the
> > command are handled in order, and the reply still come in order (even
> > when handlers finish out of order).
> >
> > Existing qemu commands can be gradually replaced by async:true
> > variants when needed, while carefully reviewing the concurrency
> > aspects. The async:true commands marshaller helpers are splitted in
> > half, the calling and return functions. The command is called with a
> > QmpReturn context, that can return immediately or later, using the
> > generated return helper.
>
> This part would certainly become simpler with coroutines (the marshaller
> could stay unchanged).

That's not much change honestly. I am not sure sneaking a coroutine
behind its back is going to be simpler, I would need to look at it.

>
> > The screendump command is converted to an async:true version to solve
> > rhbz#1230527. The command shows basic cancellation (this could be
> > extended if needed). It could be further improved to do asynchronous
> > IO writes as well.
>
> After converting it to QIOChannel like you already do, I/O would
> automatically become asynchronous when run in a coroutine.
>
> If you don't want this yet, but only fix the BZ, I guess you could delay
> that patch until later and just have a single yield and reenter of the
> command handler coroutine like this:
>
>     co = qemu_coroutine_self();
>     aio_co_schedule(qemu_coroutine_get_aio_context(co), co);
>     qemu_coroutine_yield();
>

If various places of code start doing that, we are in trouble, the
stack may grow, cancellation becomes hairy.

Furthermore, in the case of screendump, IO is not necessarily within
the coroutine context. In this case, we need to wait for the QXL
device to "flush" the screen. Communicating this event back to the
coroutine isn't simpler than what I propose here.

Thanks!

-- 
Marc-André Lureau


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-13 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-08 15:00 [PATCH v6 00/25] monitor: add asynchronous command type Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:00 ` [PATCH v6 01/25] qmp: constify QmpCommand and list Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 16:50   ` Damien Hedde
2020-02-17 11:47     ` Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 02/25] json-lexer: make it safe to call destroy multiple times Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 16:04   ` Damien Hedde
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 03/25] qmp: add QmpSession Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 04/25] QmpSession: add a return callback Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 05/25] QmpSession: add json parser and use it in qga Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 06/25] monitor: use qmp session to parse json feed Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 07/25] qga: simplify dispatch_return_cb Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 08/25] QmpSession: introduce QmpReturn Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 09/25] qmp: simplify qmp_return_error() Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 10/25] QmpSession: keep a queue of pending commands Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 11/25] QmpSession: return orderly Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 12/25] qmp: introduce asynchronous command type Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 13/25] scripts: learn 'async' qapi commands Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 14/25] qmp: add qmp_return_is_cancelled() Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 15/25] console: add graphic_hw_update_done() Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 16/25] ppm-save: pass opened fd Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 17/25] ui: add pixman image g_autoptr support Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 18/25] object: add " Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 19/25] screendump: replace FILE with QIOChannel and fix close()/qemu_close() Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 20/25] osdep: add qemu_unlink() Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 21/25] screendump: use qemu_unlink() Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 22/25] console: make screendump asynchronous Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 23/25] monitor: start making qmp_human_monitor_command() asynchronous Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 24/25] monitor: teach HMP about asynchronous commands Marc-André Lureau
2019-11-08 15:01 ` [PATCH v6 25/25] hmp: call the asynchronous QMP screendump to fix outdated/glitches Marc-André Lureau
2019-12-13 16:03 ` [PATCH v6 00/25] monitor: add asynchronous command type Kevin Wolf
2019-12-13 16:28   ` Marc-André Lureau [this message]
2019-12-16 12:07     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-06 18:21       ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-01-07  5:17         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-07 12:11           ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-01-13 15:58             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-13 16:54               ` Kevin Wolf

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