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From: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-level <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	Harpreet Singh Anand <hanand@xilinx.com>,
	Xiao W Wang <xiao.w.wang@intel.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Eli Cohen <eli@mellanox.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Michael Lilja <ml@napatech.com>,
	Jim Harford <jim.harford@broadcom.com>,
	Rob Miller <rob.miller@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 05/10] vhost: Add vhost_dev_from_virtio
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 16:35:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJaqyWcBdkOd1WFWqWVtHtgm11ti7DKKa0BS1oN5k6acX6T9rw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <569ace3d-f2c3-8b9f-63f5-809ce7067046@redhat.com>

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:52 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2021/2/4 下午5:25, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:14 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2021/2/2 下午6:17, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:31 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 2021/2/1 下午4:28, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 7:13 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2021/1/30 上午4:54, Eugenio Pérez wrote:
> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Eugenio Pérez <eperezma@redhat.com>
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>      include/hw/virtio/vhost.h |  1 +
> >>>>>>>      hw/virtio/vhost.c         | 17 +++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>>      2 files changed, 18 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> diff --git a/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h b/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h
> >>>>>>> index 4a8bc75415..fca076e3f0 100644
> >>>>>>> --- a/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h
> >>>>>>> +++ b/include/hw/virtio/vhost.h
> >>>>>>> @@ -123,6 +123,7 @@ uint64_t vhost_get_features(struct vhost_dev *hdev, const int *feature_bits,
> >>>>>>>      void vhost_ack_features(struct vhost_dev *hdev, const int *feature_bits,
> >>>>>>>                              uint64_t features);
> >>>>>>>      bool vhost_has_free_slot(void);
> >>>>>>> +struct vhost_dev *vhost_dev_from_virtio(const VirtIODevice *vdev);
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>      int vhost_net_set_backend(struct vhost_dev *hdev,
> >>>>>>>                                struct vhost_vring_file *file);
> >>>>>>> diff --git a/hw/virtio/vhost.c b/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >>>>>>> index 28c7d78172..8683d507f5 100644
> >>>>>>> --- a/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >>>>>>> +++ b/hw/virtio/vhost.c
> >>>>>>> @@ -61,6 +61,23 @@ bool vhost_has_free_slot(void)
> >>>>>>>          return slots_limit > used_memslots;
> >>>>>>>      }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +/*
> >>>>>>> + * Get the vhost device associated to a VirtIO device.
> >>>>>>> + */
> >>>>>>> +struct vhost_dev *vhost_dev_from_virtio(const VirtIODevice *vdev)
> >>>>>>> +{
> >>>>>>> +    struct vhost_dev *hdev;
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> +    QLIST_FOREACH(hdev, &vhost_devices, entry) {
> >>>>>>> +        if (hdev->vdev == vdev) {
> >>>>>>> +            return hdev;
> >>>>>>> +        }
> >>>>>>> +    }
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>> +    assert(hdev);
> >>>>>>> +    return NULL;
> >>>>>>> +}
> >>>>>> I'm not sure this can work in the case of multiqueue. E.g vhost-net
> >>>>>> multiqueue is a N:1 mapping between vhost devics and virtio devices.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Right. We could add an "vdev vq index" parameter to the function in
> >>>>> this case, but I guess the most reliable way to do this is to add a
> >>>>> vhost_opaque value to VirtQueue, as Stefan proposed in previous RFC.
> >>>> So the question still, it looks like it's easier to hide the shadow
> >>>> virtqueue stuffs at vhost layer instead of expose them to virtio layer:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) vhost protocol is stable ABI
> >>>> 2) no need to deal with virtio stuffs which is more complex than vhost
> >>>>
> >>>> Or are there any advantages if we do it at virtio layer?
> >>>>
> >>> As far as I can tell, we will need the virtio layer the moment we
> >>> start copying/translating buffers.
> >>>
> >>> In this series, the virtio dependency can be reduced if qemu does not
> >>> check the used ring _F_NO_NOTIFY flag before writing to irqfd. It
> >>> would enable packed queues and IOMMU immediately, and I think the cost
> >>> should not be so high. In the previous RFC this check was deleted
> >>> later anyway, so I think it was a bad idea to include it from the start.
> >>
> >> I am not sure I understand here. For vhost, we can still do anything we
> >> want, e.g accessing guest memory etc. Any blocker that prevent us from
> >> copying/translating buffers? (Note that qemu will propagate memory
> >> mappings to vhost).
> >>
> > There is nothing that forbids us to access directly, but if we don't
> > reuse the virtio layer functionality we would have to duplicate every
> > access function. "Need" was a too strong word maybe :).
> >
> > In other words: for the shadow vq vring exposed for the device, qemu
> > treats it as a driver, and this functionality needs to be added to
> > qemu. But for accessing the guest's one do not reuse virtio.c would be
> > a bad idea in my opinion.
>
>
> The problem is, virtio.c is not a library and it has a lot of dependency
> with other qemu modules basically makes it impossible to be reused at
> vhost level.
>

While virtio.c as a whole has dependencies, I think that the functions
needed in the original RFC do not have these dependencies.

However I see how to split vring dataplane from virtio device
management can benefit.

> We can solve this by:
>
> 1) split the core functions out as a library or
> 2) switch to use contrib/lib-vhostuser but needs to decouple UNIX socket
> transport
>
> None of the above looks trivial and they are only device codes. For
> shadow virtqueue, we need driver codes as well where no code can be reused.
>
> As we discussed, we probably need IOVA allocated when forwarding
> descriptors between the two virtqueues. So my feeling is we can have our
> own codes to start then we can consider whether we can reuse some from
> the existing virtio.c or lib-vhostuser.
>

As I see it, if we develop our own code a lot of it will be copied
from current virtio.c, which itself duplicates a lot of contrib/ lib
functionality.

Maybe it's better to combine your proposals and decouple the vring
functions, the vhost transport, and the qemu virtio device management,
so other projects can reuse them directly?

I still think this can be left for a later series with buffer
forwarding on top of this one, do you think they can/should be merged
independently?

Thanks!

> Thanks
>
>
> >
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I need to take this into account in qmp_x_vhost_enable_shadow_vq too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>      static void vhost_dev_sync_region(struct vhost_dev *dev,
> >>>>>>>                                        MemoryRegionSection *section,
> >>>>>>>                                        uint64_t mfirst, uint64_t mlast,
> >
>



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-09 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-29 20:54 [RFC 00/10] vDPA shadow virtqueue - notifications forwarding Eugenio Pérez
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 01/10] virtio: Add virtqueue_set_handler Eugenio Pérez
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 02/10] virtio: Add set_vq_handler Eugenio Pérez
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 03/10] virtio: Add virtio_queue_get_idx Eugenio Pérez
2021-02-01  6:10   ` Jason Wang
2021-02-01  7:20     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 04/10] virtio: Add virtio_queue_host_notifier_status Eugenio Pérez
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 05/10] vhost: Add vhost_dev_from_virtio Eugenio Pérez
2021-02-01  6:12   ` Jason Wang
2021-02-01  8:28     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-02-02  3:31       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-02 10:17         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-02-04  3:14           ` Jason Wang
2021-02-04  9:25             ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-02-05  3:51               ` Jason Wang
2021-02-09 15:35                 ` Eugenio Perez Martin [this message]
2021-02-10  5:54                   ` Jason Wang
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 06/10] vhost: Save masked_notifier state Eugenio Pérez
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 07/10] vhost: Add VhostShadowVirtqueue Eugenio Pérez
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 08/10] vhost: Add x-vhost-enable-shadow-vq qmp Eugenio Pérez
2021-02-02 15:38   ` Eric Blake
2021-02-04  9:01     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-02-04 12:16       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-02-04 14:03         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 09/10] vhost: Route guest->host notification through shadow virtqueue Eugenio Pérez
2021-02-01  6:29   ` Jason Wang
2021-02-02 10:08     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-02-04  3:26       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-09 15:02         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-02-10  5:57           ` Jason Wang
2021-01-29 20:54 ` [RFC 10/10] vhost: Route host->guest " Eugenio Pérez

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