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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/27] virtio: Add virtio_queue_get_used_notify_split
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 10:46:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YEYAeGasxYD6ZheE@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJaqyWd0iRUUW5Hu=U3mwQ4f43kA=bse3EkN4+QauFR4BJwObQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 07:34:20PM +0100, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 12:22 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 07:21:27PM +0100, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:58 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 07:50:44PM +0100, Eugenio Pérez wrote:
> > > > > This function is just used for a few commits, so SW LM is developed
> > > > > incrementally, and it is deleted after it is useful.
> > > > >
> > > > > For a few commits, only the events (irqfd, eventfd) are forwarded.
> > > >
> > > > s/eventfd/ioeventfd/ (irqfd is also an eventfd)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oops, will fix, thanks!
> > >
> > > > > +bool virtio_queue_get_used_notify_split(VirtQueue *vq)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +    VRingMemoryRegionCaches *caches;
> > > > > +    hwaddr pa = offsetof(VRingUsed, flags);
> > > > > +    uint16_t flags;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    RCU_READ_LOCK_GUARD();
> > > > > +
> > > > > +    caches = vring_get_region_caches(vq);
> > > > > +    assert(caches);
> > > > > +    flags = virtio_lduw_phys_cached(vq->vdev, &caches->used, pa);
> > > > > +    return !(VRING_USED_F_NO_NOTIFY & flags);
> > > > > +}
> > > >
> > > > QEMU stores the notification status:
> > > >
> > > > void virtio_queue_set_notification(VirtQueue *vq, int enable)
> > > > {
> > > >     vq->notification = enable; <---- here
> > > >
> > > >     if (!vq->vring.desc) {
> > > >         return;
> > > >     }
> > > >
> > > >     if (virtio_vdev_has_feature(vq->vdev, VIRTIO_F_RING_PACKED)) {
> > > >         virtio_queue_packed_set_notification(vq, enable);
> > > >     } else {
> > > >         virtio_queue_split_set_notification(vq, enable);
> > > >
> > > > I'm wondering why it's necessary to fetch from guest RAM instead of
> > > > using vq->notification? It also works for both split and packed
> > > > queues so the code would be simpler.
> > >
> > > To use vq->notification makes sense at the end of the series.
> > >
> > > However, at this stage (just routing notifications, not descriptors),
> > > vhost device is the one updating that flag, not qemu. Since we cannot
> > > just migrate used ring memory to qemu without migrating descriptors
> > > ring too, qemu needs to check guest's memory looking for vhost device
> > > updates on that flag.
> > >
> > > I can see how that deserves better documentation or even a better
> > > name. Also, this function should be in the shadow vq file, not
> > > virtio.c.
> >
> > I can't think of a reason why QEMU needs to know the flag value that the
> > vhost device has set. This flag is a hint to the guest driver indicating
> > whether the device wants to receive notifications.
> >
> > Can you explain why QEMU needs to look at the value of the flag?
> >
> > Stefan
> 
> My bad, "need" is not the right word: SVQ could just forward the
> notification at this point without checking the flag. Taking into
> account that it's not used in later series, and it's even removed in
> patch 14/27 of this series, I can see that it just adds noise to the
> entire patchset
> 
> This function just allows svq to re-check the flag after the guest
> sends the notification. This way svq is able to drop the kick as a
> (premature?) optimization in case the device sets it just after the
> guest sends the kick.
> 
> Until patch 13/27, only notifications are forwarded, not buffers. VM
> guest's drivers and vhost device still read and write at usual
> addresses, but ioeventfd and kvmfd are intercepted by qemu. This
> allows us to test if the notification forwarding part is doing ok.
> From patch 14 of this series, svq offers a new vring to the device in
> qemu's VAS, so the former does not need to check the guest's memory
> anymore, and this function can be dropped.
> 
> Is it clearer now? Please let me know if I should add something else.

Thanks for explaining. You could drop it to simplify the code. If you
leave it in, please include a comment explaining the purpose.

Thanks,
Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-08 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-20 18:50 [RFC PATCH 00/27] vDPA software assisted live migration Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 01/27] vhost: Add vhost_dev_can_log Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 02/27] vhost: Add device callback in vhost_migration_log Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-07 16:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 12:20     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 03/27] vhost: Move log resize/put to vhost_dev_set_log Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 04/27] vhost: add vhost_kernel_set_vring_enable Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-07 16:43   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 12:00     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-12-09 16:08       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 05/27] vhost: Add hdev->dev.sw_lm_vq_handler Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-07 16:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 15:02     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-12-10 11:30       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 06/27] virtio: Add virtio_queue_get_used_notify_split Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-07 16:58   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-12 18:21     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-03-02 11:22       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-02 18:34         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-03-08 10:46           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 07/27] vhost: Route guest->host notification through qemu Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-07 17:42   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 17:08     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-12-10 11:50       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-21 20:10         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 08/27] vhost: Add a flag for software assisted Live Migration Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  7:20   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 17:57     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 09/27] vhost: Route host->guest notification through qemu Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  7:34   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 10/27] vhost: Allocate shadow vring Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  7:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-08  8:17   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 18:15     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 11/27] virtio: const-ify all virtio_tswap* functions Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 12/27] virtio: Add virtio_queue_full Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 13/27] vhost: Send buffers to device Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  8:16   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 18:41     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-12-10 11:55       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-22 18:18         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
     [not found]           ` <CAJaqyWdNeaboGaSsXPA8r=mUsbctFLzACFKLX55yRQpTvjqxJw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-22 10:51             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-22 15:55               ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-03-22 17:40                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-24 19:04                   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-03-24 19:56                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 14/27] virtio: Remove virtio_queue_get_used_notify_split Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 15/27] vhost: Do not invalidate signalled used Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 16/27] virtio: Expose virtqueue_alloc_element Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  8:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 18:46     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-12-10 11:57       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 17/27] vhost: add vhost_vring_set_notification_rcu Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 18/27] vhost: add vhost_vring_poll_rcu Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  8:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09 18:48     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 19/27] vhost: add vhost_vring_get_buf_rcu Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 20/27] vhost: Return used buffers Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  8:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-20 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 21/27] vhost: Add vhost_virtqueue_memory_unmap Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 22/27] vhost: Add vhost_virtqueue_memory_map Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 23/27] vhost: unmap qemu's shadow virtqueues on sw live migration Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-27 15:29   ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-11-30  7:54     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 24/27] vhost: iommu changes Eugenio Pérez
2020-12-08  9:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-20 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 25/27] vhost: Do not commit vhost used idx on vhost_virtqueue_stop Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 19:35   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 26/27] vhost: Add vhost_hdev_can_sw_lm Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 18:51 ` [RFC PATCH 27/27] vhost: forbid vhost devices logging Eugenio Pérez
2020-11-20 19:03 ` [RFC PATCH 00/27] vDPA software assisted live migration Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-20 19:30 ` no-reply
2020-11-25  7:08 ` Jason Wang
2020-11-25 12:03   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-25 12:14     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2020-11-26  3:07     ` Jason Wang
2020-11-27 15:44 ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-12-08  9:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-09  9:26   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-09 15:57     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-10  9:12       ` Jason Wang

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