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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: fweimer@redhat.com, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	thuth@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Fam Zheng <fam@euphon.net>,
	sguelton@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] tls: add macros for coroutine-safe TLS variables
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:36:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXgEWV7CnnVj4bLO@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXa7zMZG2saNHInI@redhat.com>

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 03:14:36PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 03:07:15PM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > Compiler optimizations can cache TLS values across coroutine yield
> > points, resulting in stale values from the previous thread when a
> > coroutine is re-entered by a new thread.
> > 
> > Serge Guelton developed an __attribute__((noinline)) wrapper and tested
> > it with clang and gcc. I formatted his idea according to QEMU's coding
> > style and wrote documentation.
> > 
> > These macros must be used instead of __thread from now on to prevent
> > coroutine TLS bugs.
> 
> Does this apply to all  __thread usage in the QEMU process that can
> be used from coroutine context, or just certain __thread usage ?
> 
> Mostly I'm wondering if this is going to have implications on external
> libraries we use. eg if block layer is using librbd.so APIs, is librbd.sp
> safe to use __thread directly in any way it desires ?

There is a theoretical problem but I'm not sure if it will occur in
practice:

If a __thread variable is in an extern function then there's little
risk of the value being cached. The function executes and returns back
to QEMU, never yielding.

The only case I can think of is when the library accesses a __thread
variable, invokes a callback into QEMU, and that callback yields. If the
coroutine is re-entered from another thread and returns back to the
library, then we have a problem. This seems like a very rare case
though.

It gets trickier if the library has the __thread variable in a header
file, because then the compiler may optimize it into a QEMU coroutine
function and cache its value.

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-25 14:07 [RFC 0/2] tls: add macros for coroutine-safe TLS variables Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-25 14:07 ` [RFC 1/2] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-25 14:14   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-26 13:36     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2021-10-26 13:41     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-26 14:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-26 16:26         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-25 17:19   ` Richard Henderson
2021-10-26 13:30     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-26 15:32       ` Richard Henderson
2021-10-26 16:27         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-25 14:07 ` [RFC 2/2] util/async: replace __thread with QEMU TLS macros Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-25 14:20 ` [RFC 0/2] tls: add macros for coroutine-safe TLS variables Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-25 16:16 ` Richard Henderson
2021-10-25 23:27   ` Warner Losh
2021-10-26 13:22     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-26 15:10       ` Richard Henderson
2021-10-26 16:34         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-26 17:10           ` Richard Henderson
2021-10-26 17:26             ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-26 18:03               ` Richard Henderson
2021-10-27 10:38             ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-27 12:34             ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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