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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/15] hw/pci: Add a pci_device_iommu_memory_region() helper
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 11:05:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZH9LIqTK2KBafcXO@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZH9Kr6mrKNqUgcYs@x1n>

[ I forgot to really copy anyone, as usual.. trying again ]

On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 11:03:11AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 06, 2023 at 12:22:16PM +0100, Joao Martins wrote:
> > On 05/06/2023 17:57, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 06:59:25PM +0100, Joao Martins wrote:
> > >> Much like pci_device_iommu_address_space() fetches the IOMMU AS, add a
> > >> pci_device_iommu_memory_region() which lets it return an the IOMMU MR
> > >> associated with it. The IOMMU MR is returned correctly for vIOMMUs using
> > >> pci_setup_iommu_info(). Note that today most vIOMMUs create the address
> > >> space and IOMMU MR at the same time, it's just mainly that there's API
> > >> to make the latter available.
> > > 
> > > Have you looked into other archs outside x86?  IIRC on some other arch one
> > > address space can have >1 IOMMU memory regions.. at least with such AS and
> > > MR layering it seems always possible?  Thanks,
> > > 
> > 
> > I looked at all callers of pci_setup_iommu() restricting to those that actually
> > track an IOMMUMemoryRegion when they create a address space... as this is where
> > pci_device_iommu_memory_region() is applicable. From looking at those[*], I see
> > always a 1:1 association between the AS and the IOMMU-MR in their initialization
> > when iommu_fn is called. Unless I missed something... Is there an arch you were
> > thinking specifically?
> 
> If only observing the ones that "track an IOMMUMemoryRegion when they
> create a address space", probably we're fine.  I was thinking ppc but I
> don't really know the details, and I assume that's not in the scope.
> Copying David Gibson just in case he got some comments here.
> 
> > 
> > [I am not sure we can track today an 1:N AS->IOMMU association today in Qemu]
> 
> IIUC we can?  The address space only have a root MR, and with that after
> translate() upon the root mr (per address_space_translate_iommu(), it can
> even be a few rounds of nested translations) it can go into whatever MR
> under it IIUC.  Different ranges can map to a different IOMMU MR logically.
> 
> > 
> > [*] alpha, arm smmu, ppc, s390, virtio, and some pci bridges (pnv_phb3 and pnv_phb4)
> 
> I just worried what we need here is not a MR object but a higher level
> object like the vIOMMU object.  We used to have a requirement with Scalable
> IOV (SVA) on Intel.  I tried to dig a bit in my inbox, not sure whether
> it's the latest status, just to show what I meant:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20210302203827.437645-6-yi.l.liu@intel.com
> 
> Copy Yi too for that too.  From that aspect it makes more sense to me to
> fetching things from either an IOMMUops or "an iommu object", rather than
> relying on a specific MR (it'll also make it even harder when we can have
> >1 vIOMMUs so different MR can point to different IOMMUs in the future).
> 
> I assume the two goals have similar requirement, iiuc.  If that's the case,
> we'd better make sure we'll have one way to work for both.
> 
> -- 
> Peter Xu

-- 
Peter Xu



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-06 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30 17:59 [PATCH v3 00/15] vfio: VFIO migration support with vIOMMU Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] hw/pci: Refactor pci_device_iommu_address_space() Joao Martins
2023-05-30 22:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-05-31 10:03     ` Joao Martins
2023-06-22 20:50       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-22 21:01         ` Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] hw/pci: Add a pci_setup_iommu_info() helper Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] hw/pci: Add a pci_device_iommu_memory_region() helper Joao Martins
2023-06-05 16:57   ` Peter Xu
2023-06-06 11:22     ` Joao Martins
2023-06-06 15:03       ` Peter Xu
2023-06-06 15:05         ` Peter Xu [this message]
2023-06-06 17:44           ` Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] intel-iommu: Switch to pci_setup_iommu_info() Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] vfio/common: Track the IOMMU MR behind the device in addition to the AS Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] memory/iommu: Add IOMMU_ATTR_DMA_TRANSLATION attribute Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] intel-iommu: Implement get_attr() method Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] vfio/common: Relax vIOMMU detection when DMA translation is off Joao Martins
2023-05-30 21:39   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-05-31  9:39     ` Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] memory/iommu: Add IOMMU_ATTR_MAX_IOVA attribute Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] intel-iommu: Implement IOMMU_ATTR_MAX_IOVA get_attr() attribute Joao Martins
2023-05-30 21:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-05-31  9:54     ` Joao Martins
2023-05-31 13:59       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] vfio/common: Move dirty tracking ranges update to helper Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] vfio/common: Support device dirty page tracking with vIOMMU Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] vfio/common: Extract vIOMMU code from vfio_sync_dirty_bitmap() Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] vfio/common: Optimize device dirty page tracking with vIOMMU Joao Martins
2023-05-30 17:59 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] vfio/common: Block migration with vIOMMUs without address width limits Joao Martins

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