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From: Keqian Zhu <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kuhn.chenqun@huawei.com, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, wanghaibin.wang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] ramlist: Make dirty bitmap blocks of ramlist resizable
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 15:11:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbfc0b13-0917-6851-e10f-c7001ff9fd22@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7306ed10-871a-58ab-06d4-daa1efc5c9a7@huawei.com>


[...]

>>> -        for (j = old_num_blocks; j < new_num_blocks; j++) {
>>> -            new_blocks->blocks[j] = bitmap_new(DIRTY_MEMORY_BLOCK_SIZE);
>>> +        if (extend) {
>>> +            for (j = cpy_num_blocks; j < new_num_blocks; j++) {
>>> +                new_blocks->blocks[j] = bitmap_new(DIRTY_MEMORY_BLOCK_SIZE);
>>> +            }
>>> +        } else {
>>> +            for (j = cpy_num_blocks; j < old_num_blocks; j++) {
>>> +                /* We are safe to free it, for that it is out-of-use */
>>> +                g_free(old_blocks->blocks[j]);
>>
>> This looks unsafe because this code uses Read Copy Update (RCU):
>>
>>   old_blocks = qatomic_rcu_read(&ram_list.dirty_memory[i]);
>>
>> Other threads may still be accessing old_blocks so we cannot modify it
>> immediately. Changes need to be deferred until the next RCU period.
>> g_free_rcu() needs to be used to do this.
>>
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> You are right. I was thinking about the VM life cycle before. We shrink the dirty_memory
> when we are removing unused ramblock. However we can not rely on this.
> 
> I also notice that "Organization into blocks allows dirty memory to grow (but not shrink)
> under RCU". Why "but not shrink"? Any thoughts?
Hi,

After my analysis, it's both unsafe to grow or shrink under RCU.

ram_list.blocks and ram_list.dirty_memory[X] are closely related and
both protected by RCU. For the lockless RCU readers, we can't promise they
always see consistent version of the two structures.

For grow, a reader may see un-growed @dirty_memory and growed @blocks, causing out-of-bound access.
For shrink, a reader may see shrinked @dirty_memory and un-shrinked @blocks, causing out-of-bound access too.

I think it's a design problem, RCU can just protect one structure, not two.

Thanks,
Keqian.
> 
> [...]
>  * Organization into blocks allows dirty memory to grow (but not shrink) under
>  * RCU.  When adding new RAMBlocks requires the dirty memory to grow, a new
>  * DirtyMemoryBlocks array is allocated with pointers to existing blocks kept
>  * the same.  Other threads can safely access existing blocks while dirty
>  * memory is being grown.  When no threads are using the old DirtyMemoryBlocks
>  * anymore it is freed by RCU (but the underlying blocks stay because they are
>  * pointed to from the new DirtyMemoryBlocks).
>  */
> #define DIRTY_MEMORY_BLOCK_SIZE ((ram_addr_t)256 * 1024 * 8)
> typedef struct {
>     struct rcu_head rcu;
>     unsigned long *blocks[];
> } DirtyMemoryBlocks;
> [...]
> 
> Thanks,
> Keqian
> 
> 
> .
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-26  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30 13:11 [PATCH v2 0/2] bugfix: Decrease dirty bitmap blocks after we remove ramblock Keqian Zhu
2020-11-30 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] ramlist: Make dirty bitmap blocks of ramlist resizable Keqian Zhu
2020-12-17 10:05   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-21  7:37     ` Keqian Zhu
2020-12-26  7:11       ` Keqian Zhu [this message]
2021-03-08 10:52         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-11-30 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ramlist: Resize dirty bitmap blocks after remove ramblock Keqian Zhu
2020-12-03 14:02 ` Ping: [PATCH v2 0/2] bugfix: Decrease dirty bitmap blocks after we " zhukeqian
2020-12-17 10:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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