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From: "Liu, Jingqi" <jingqi.liu@intel.com>
To: Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Lai, Paul C" <paul.c.lai@intel.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Amnon Ilan <ailan@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Adjustments of NVDIMM devices and future data safety
Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 15:30:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <be4c2ff5-9de9-1843-fd1f-1295e64fd68a@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2d0gjw6.fsf@redhat.com>

Hi Milan,

On 4/30/2021 8:18 PM, Milan Zamazal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I work on NVDIMM support in oVirt/RHV, I think other virtualization
> management software built on top of QEMU may have similar concerns.
>
> When a virtual NVDIMM device size is specified, it's not necessarily the
> eventual NVDIMM device size visible to the guest OS.  As seen in
> https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/v6.0.0/hw/mem/nvdimm.c#L117, QEMU
> makes some adjustments (other adjustments are performed by libvirt but
> that's a topic for a different forum):
>
> - NVDIMM label size is subtracted from the NVDIMM size.
>
> - NVDIMM label is pointed to a certain memory region.
>
> - The remaining NVDIMM size is aligned down.
>
> There are some related potential problems:
>
> - If the alignment rules change in a future QEMU version, it may result
>    in a different device size visible to the guest (even if the requested
>    size remains the same) and cause trouble there up to data loss.
>
> - If the layout on the backing device changes, e.g. a label placement,
>    then the stored data may become corrupt or inaccessible.
>
> - I'm not sure about the current QEMU version, but at least in previous
>    QEMU versions, the resulting size is important for memory hot plug.
>    The NVDIMM alignment size is smaller than the required regular memory
>    DIMM placement alignment.  If a VM contains an NVDIMM with the
>    resulting size not matching the DIMM placement requirements and a
>    memory hot plug is attempted then the hot plug fails because the DIMM
>    is mapped next to the end of the NVDIMM region, which is not
>    DIMM-aligned.

Can you explain the details and give an example of how to reproduce this 
issue ?

Thanks,

Jingqi



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-08  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-30 12:18 Adjustments of NVDIMM devices and future data safety Milan Zamazal
2021-05-03 14:09 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-05-05 20:46   ` Milan Zamazal
2021-05-08  7:30 ` Liu, Jingqi [this message]
2021-05-18 15:29   ` Milan Zamazal

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