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From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Paul Durrant" <paul@xen.org>,
	"Ankur Arora" <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Claudio Fontana" <cfontana@suse.de>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/15] Xen PV backend support for KVM/Xen guests
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 15:43:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d67bb9ad-852f-e38e-d6dd-28de54d7774f@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230110123754.1564465-1-dwmw2@infradead.org>

On 10/01/2023 12:37, David Woodhouse wrote:
> Some parts of it are relatively straightforward; others less so. In
> particular, it looks really hard to provide a contiguous virtual mapping
> of multiple potentially discontiguous pages granted by the guest. To
> fix that we might actually need the guest memory blocks to be backed
> by real files (perhaps deleted or shmem) in order that they can be mapped
> again in at a different virtual address. 

I wonder if we really need to go to that extent.

As far as Qemu emulated-Xen is concerned, gref is mostly a different lookup
mechanism a GPA i.e. an index on a table (that the VMM knows about) that
references a GPA. Perhaps if it's simpler to teach the backends to deal with
discontiguous grefs (if there's such a case today even).

The only user of multi-gref mapping is the block xen driver ... and only for
mapping the shared ring if I understood correctly. But even there you could
probably twist it... considering that the multi-gref ring is contiguous is guest
address space, thus the gref -> HVA conversion ius contiguous too (?). So that
way you could still return a single HVA (provided that map-grant implementation
validates the backing frame contiguosity).

> So for now we'll limit the
> back ends to mapping a single grant ref at a time.
> 
Which is not a practical limitation right now. One grant ref is actually fine
for the everything else that is not the block shared-ring.  Xen devices in Qemu
seem to be using the legacy backend interface, and thus (un)mapping one grant at
a time, or otherwise copying grefs.

> https://git.infradead.org/users/dwmw2/qemu.git/shortlog/refs/heads/xenfv-kvm-backends-1
> 
Cool stuff! A lot better than the RFC redirection layer

> David Woodhouse (14):
>       hw/xen: Remove old version of Xen headers

This patch looks more appropriate to your earlier v6 (?)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-10 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-10 12:19 [PATCH v6 00/51] Xen support under KVM David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 01/51] include: import Xen public headers to include/standard-headers/ David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 02/51] xen: add CONFIG_XENFV_MACHINE and CONFIG_XEN_EMU options for Xen emulation David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 03/51] xen: Add XEN_DISABLED mode and make it default David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 04/51] i386/kvm: Add xen-version KVM accelerator property and init KVM Xen support David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 05/51] i386/kvm: handle Xen HVM cpuid leaves David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 06/51] i386/hvm: Set Xen vCPU ID in KVM David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 07/51] xen-platform: exclude vfio-pci from the PCI platform unplug David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:19 ` [PATCH v6 08/51] xen-platform: allow its creation with XEN_EMULATE mode David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 16:20   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-16 17:56     ` David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 09/51] i386/xen: handle guest hypercalls David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 16:24   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-16 17:57     ` David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 10/51] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_xen_version David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 11/51] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_sched_op, SCHEDOP_shutdown David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 16:27   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 12/51] i386/xen: Implement SCHEDOP_poll and SCHEDOP_yield David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 16:36   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 13/51] hw/xen: Add xen_overlay device for emulating shared xenheap pages David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 16:57   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 14/51] i386/xen: add pc_machine_kvm_type to initialize XEN_EMULATE mode David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:17   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-16 19:45     ` David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 15/51] i386/xen: manage and save/restore Xen guest long_mode setting David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:20   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 16/51] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_memory_op David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:28   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 17/51] i386/xen: implement XENMEM_add_to_physmap_batch David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:36   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 18/51] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_hvm_op David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:39   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 19/51] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_vcpu_op David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:40   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 20/51] i386/xen: handle VCPUOP_register_vcpu_info David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:46   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 21/51] i386/xen: handle VCPUOP_register_vcpu_time_info David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:53   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 22/51] i386/xen: handle VCPUOP_register_runstate_memory_area David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:56   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 23/51] i386/xen: implement HYPERVISOR_event_channel_op David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 17:59   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-16 19:54     ` David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 24/51] i386/xen: implement HVMOP_set_evtchn_upcall_vector David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 25/51] i386/xen: implement HVMOP_set_param David Woodhouse
2023-01-16 18:00   ` Paul Durrant
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 26/51] hw/xen: Add xen_evtchn device for event channel emulation David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 27/51] i386/xen: Add support for Xen event channel delivery to vCPU David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 28/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_status David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 29/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_close David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 30/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_unmask David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 31/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_virq David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 32/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_ipi David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 33/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_send David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 34/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_alloc_unbound David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 35/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_interdomain David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 36/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_bind_vcpu David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 37/51] hw/xen: Implement EVTCHNOP_reset David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 38/51] i386/xen: add monitor commands to test event injection David Woodhouse
2023-01-11 14:28   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2023-01-11 14:57     ` David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 39/51] hw/xen: Support HVM_PARAM_CALLBACK_TYPE_GSI callback David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 40/51] hw/xen: Support HVM_PARAM_CALLBACK_TYPE_PCI_INTX callback David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 41/51] kvm/i386: Add xen-gnttab-max-frames property David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 42/51] hw/xen: Add xen_gnttab device for grant table emulation David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 43/51] hw/xen: Support mapping grant frames David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 44/51] i386/xen: Implement HYPERVISOR_grant_table_op and GNTTABOP_[gs]et_verson David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 45/51] hw/xen: Implement GNTTABOP_query_size David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 46/51] i386/xen: handle PV timer hypercalls David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 47/51] i386/xen: Reserve Xen special pages for console, xenstore rings David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 48/51] i386/xen: handle HVMOP_get_param David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 49/51] hw/xen: Add backend implementation of interdomain event channel support David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 50/51] hw/xen: Add xen_xenstore device for xenstore emulation David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:20 ` [PATCH v6 51/51] hw/xen: Add basic ring handling to xenstore David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/15] Xen PV backend support for KVM/Xen guests David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/15] hw/xen: Add evtchn operations to allow redirection to internal emulation David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/15] hw/xen: Add emulated evtchn ops David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/15] hw/xen: Add gnttab operations to allow redirection to internal emulation David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/15] hw/xen: Pass grant ref to gnttab unmap David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/15] hw/xen: Add foreignmem operations to allow redirection to internal emulation David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/15] hw/xen: Add xenstore " David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/15] hw/xen: Move xenstore_store_pv_console_info to xen_console.c David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/15] hw/xen: Use XEN_PAGE_SIZE in PV backend drivers David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/15] hw/xen: Rename xen_common.h to xen_native.h David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/15] hw/xen: Build PV backend drivers for XENFV_MACHINE David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/15] hw/xen: Map guest XENSTORE_PFN grant in emulated Xenstore David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/15] hw/xen: Add backend implementation of grant table operations David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/15] hw/xen: Implement soft reset for emulated gnttab David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/15] hw/xen: Remove old version of Xen headers David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 12:37   ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/15] i386/xen: Initialize XenBus and legacy backends from pc_init1() David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 15:43   ` Joao Martins [this message]
2023-01-10 15:47     ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/15] Xen PV backend support for KVM/Xen guests Joao Martins
2023-01-10 16:52     ` David Woodhouse
2023-01-10 17:26       ` Joao Martins

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