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envelope-from=kwankhede@nvidia.com; helo=hqnvemgate25.nvidia.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/06 15:30:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Windows 7 or 8 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -70 X-Spam_score: -7.1 X-Spam_bar: ------- X-Spam_report: (-7.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "Tian, Kevin" , "Liu, Yi L" , "cjia@nvidia.com" , "eskultet@redhat.com" , "Yang, Ziye" , "Zhengxiao.zx@Alibaba-inc.com" , "shuangtai.tst@alibaba-inc.com" , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , "Wang, Zhi A" , "mlevitsk@redhat.com" , "pasic@linux.ibm.com" , "aik@ozlabs.ru" , Alex Williamson , "eauger@redhat.com" , "felipe@nutanix.com" , "jonathan.davies@nutanix.com" , Yan Zhao , "Liu, Changpeng" , "Ken.Xue@amd.com" Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On 5/6/2020 10:23 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > * Cornelia Huck (cohuck@redhat.com) wrote: >> On Wed, 6 May 2020 02:38:46 -0400 >> Yan Zhao wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 12:37:26PM +0800, Alex Williamson wrote: >>>> It's been a long time, but that doesn't seem like what I was asking. >>>> The sysfs version checking is used to select a target that is likely to >>>> succeed, but the migration stream is still generated by a user and the >>>> vendor driver is still ultimately responsible for validating that >>>> stream. I would hope that a vendor migration stream therefore starts >>>> with information similar to that found in the sysfs interface, allowing >>>> the receiving vendor driver to validate the source device and vendor >>>> software version, such that we can fail an incoming migration that the >>>> vendor driver deems incompatible. Ideally the vendor driver might also >>>> include consistency and sequence checking throughout the stream to >>>> prevent a malicious user from exploiting the internal operation of the >>>> vendor driver. Thanks, >> >> Some kind of somewhat standardized marker for driver/version seems like >> a good idea. Further checking is also a good idea, but I think the >> details of that need to be left to the individual drivers. > > Standardised markers like that would be useful; although the rules of > how to compare them might be a bit vendor specific; but still - it would > be good for us to be able to dump something out when it all goes wrong. > Such checking should already there in vendor driver. Vendor driver might also support across version migration. I think checking in QEMU again would be redundant. Let vendor driver handle version checks. Thanks, Kirti >>>> >>> maybe we can add a rw field migration_version in >>> struct vfio_device_migration_info besides sysfs interface ? >>> >>> when reading it in src, it gets the same string as that from sysfs; >>> when writing it in target, it returns success or not to check >>> compatibility and fails the migration early in setup phase. >> >> Getting both populated from the same source seems like a good idea. >> >> Not sure if a string is the best value to put into a migration stream; >> maybe the sysfs interface can derive a human-readable string from a >> more compact value to be put into the migration region (and ultimately >> the stream)? Might be overengineering, just thinking out aloud here. > > A string might be OK fi you specify a little about it. > > Dave > > -- > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK >