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From: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	Intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/i915/pmu: Do not assume fixed hrtimer period
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:06:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <152818960780.9058.9489807079671744910@mail.alporthouse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6dc98aa7-e072-ac70-d314-cccb3924ed52@linux.intel.com>

Quoting Tvrtko Ursulin (2018-06-05 09:51:01)
> 
> On 04/06/2018 16:11, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > Quoting Tvrtko Ursulin (2018-06-04 16:01:26)
> >>
> >> On 04/06/2018 14:03, Chris Wilson wrote:
> >>> Quoting Chris Wilson (2018-06-04 13:59:12)
> >>>> Quoting Tvrtko Ursulin (2018-06-04 13:52:39)
> >>>>> From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As Chris has discovered on his Ivybridge, and later automated test runs
> >>>>> have confirmed, on most of our platforms hrtimer faced with heavy GPU load
> >>>>> ca occasionally become sufficiently imprecise to affect PMU sampling
> >>>>
> >>>> s/ca/can/
> >>>>
> >>>>> calculations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This means we cannot assume sampling frequency is what we asked for, but
> >>>>> we need to measure the interval ourselves.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This patch is similar to Chris' original proposal for per-engine counters,
> >>>>> but instead of introducing a new set to work around the problem with
> >>>>> frequency sampling, it swaps around the way internal frequency accounting
> >>>>> is done. Instead of accumulating current frequency and dividing by
> >>>>> sampling frequency on readout, it accumulates frequency scaled by each
> >>>>> period.
> >>>>
> >>>> My ulterior motive failed to win favour ;)
> >>>>    
> >>>>> Testcase: igt/perf_pmu/*busy* # snb, ivb, hsw
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> >>>>> Suggested-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> >>>>> Cc: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> >>>> Reviewed-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> >>>
> >>> I should point out that even with this fix (or rather my patch), we can
> >>
> >> I did not mean to steal it,
> > 
> > Don't mind, I view such patches as "this here is a problem, and what I
> > think can be done". I'm quite happy to be told "nope, the problem
> > is..."; the end result is we fix and move on.
> > 
> >> just that you seemed very uncompromising on
> >> the new counters approach. If you prefer you can respin your patch with
> >> this approach for frequency counters, it is fine by me.
> > 
> > I'm just not convinced yet by the frequency sampler, and I still feel
> > that we would be better off with cycles. I just haven't found a
> > convincing argument ;)
> 
> Just imagine .unit file has Mcycles instead of MHz in it? :)
> 
> Since we went with this when adding it initially I think we should 
> exercise restrain with deprecating and adding so quickly.
> 
> >>> still see errors of 25-30us, enough to fail the test. However, without
> >>> the fix our errors can be orders of magnitude worse (e.g. reporting 80us
> >>> busy instead of 500us).
> >>
> >> Yeah I guess if the timer is delayed it is delayed and all samples just
> >> won't be there. I don't see a way to fix that elegantly. Even practically.
> > 
> > Right, but it's not the case that we aren't sampling. If the timer was
> > delayed entirely, then we would see 0 (start_val == end_val). I'm not
> > sure exactly what goes wrong, but it probably is related to the timer
> > being unreliable. (It's just that in this case we are sampling a square
> > wave, so really hard to mess up!)
> 
> Hm maybe I am not completely understanding what you are seeing. I 
> thought that multiple timer overruns (aka delay by multiple periods) 
> explains everything.
> 
> Then even with this patch, if they happen to happen (!) at the end of a 
> sampling period (as observed from userspace), the large-ish chunk of 
> samples (depending on the total sampling duration) may be missing 
> (pending), and so still observed as fail.

Ah, but with the variable period timer, we can force the timer to run
before we report the same (perf_event_read). That should still be inside
the busy batch, and it still has the same inaccuracy (~28us, for a small
sample population, measuring the tail is on my wishlist):

diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_pmu.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_pmu.c
index 34cc6f6..8578a43 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_pmu.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_pmu.c
@@ -534,6 +534,12 @@ static u64 __i915_pmu_event_read(struct perf_event *event)
                        val = engine->pmu.sample[sample].cur;
                }
        } else {
+               if (hrtimer_cancel(&i915->pmu.timer)) {
+                       i915_sample(&i915->pmu.timer);
+                       hrtimer_start_expires(&i915->pmu.timer,
+                                             HRTIMER_MODE_ABS);
+               }
+
                switch (event->attr.config) {
                case I915_PMU_ACTUAL_FREQUENCY:
                        val =

I haven't thought enough about why it still has the tail, nor measured 
the distribution of errors. I just wanted to warn that we aren't quite
out of the mess yet, but with the variable period we do at least stop
drowning!
 
> Difference after this patch is that when the timer eventually fires the 
> counter will account for the delay, so subsequent queries will be fine.
> 
> If readout waited for at least one real sampling tick, that would be 
> solved, but by several other undesirable consequences. At least it would 
> slow down readout to 200Hz, but I don't know from the top of my head if 
> it wouldn't cause unresolvable deadlock scenarios, or if it is even 
> technically possible within the perf framework. (Since I don't think we 
> should do it, I don't even want to start thinking about it.)

The above should do what you have in mind, I think.
-Chris
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04 12:52 [PATCH] drm/i915/pmu: Do not assume fixed hrtimer period Tvrtko Ursulin
2018-06-04 12:59 ` Chris Wilson
2018-06-04 13:03   ` Chris Wilson
2018-06-04 15:01     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2018-06-04 15:11       ` Chris Wilson
2018-06-05  8:51         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2018-06-05  9:06           ` Chris Wilson [this message]
2018-06-05 11:35             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2018-06-05 11:42               ` Chris Wilson
2018-06-04 13:05 ` ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for " Patchwork
2018-06-04 13:26 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2018-06-04 14:17 ` ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork
2018-06-05 10:57 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure for drm/i915/pmu: Do not assume fixed hrtimer period (rev2) Patchwork

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