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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, linux-cachefs@redhat.com,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	David Wysochanski <dwysocha@redhat.com>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	Jeffle Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 18/19] netfs: Keep track of the actual remote file size
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2022 22:27:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1841545.1646864871@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ebfd2f772ceef605896e58bbd0e733e1413ff71.camel@kernel.org>

Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:

> This seems like something useful, but I wonder if it'll need some sort
> of serialization vs. concurrent updates.

Quite possibly, though that may be something that we have to delegate to the
network filesystem.  kafs, for instance, performs local serialisation of
StoreData RPCs to any given inode because the server will exclusively lock the
remote vnode around the write-to-disk and callback break (ie. change
notification) phases.  This does not preclude, however, another client making
a change whilst the local lock is held.  Of course, in such a case, we're into
conflict resolution and may end up invalidating the local copy.

> Can we assume that netfs itself will never call netfs_resize_file?

Probably.  Depends on how truncation gets handled.

> Ceph already has some pretty complicated size tracking, since it can get
> async notifications of size changes from the MDS. We'll have to consider
> how to integrate this with what it does. Probably this will replace one
> (or more?) of its fields.

ceph's i_reported_size maybe?  cifs has server_eof.

> We may need to offer up some guidance wrt locking.

i_lock may be a good fit.  I wonder if it's worth at some point moving i_lock
to being a seqlock so that various values ordinarily protected by it are
accessible using read_seqbegin().

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-09 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-08 23:24 [PATCH v2 00/19] netfs: Prep for write helpers David Howells
2022-03-08 23:25 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] fscache: export fscache_end_operation() David Howells
2022-03-09 15:26   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-10  1:40     ` JeffleXu
2022-03-08 23:25 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] netfs: Generate enums from trace symbol mapping lists David Howells
2022-03-09 15:30   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-09 15:49   ` David Howells
2022-03-09 18:39     ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:25 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] netfs: Rename netfs_read_*request to netfs_io_*request David Howells
2022-03-09 15:31   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] netfs: Finish off rename of netfs_read_request to netfs_io_request David Howells
2022-03-09 15:34   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] netfs: Split netfs_io_* object handling out David Howells
2022-03-09 15:44   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] netfs: Adjust the netfs_rreq tracepoint slightly David Howells
2022-03-09 15:45   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] netfs: Trace refcounting on the netfs_io_request struct David Howells
2022-03-08 23:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] netfs: Trace refcounting on the netfs_io_subrequest struct David Howells
2022-03-08 23:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] netfs: Adjust the netfs_failure tracepoint to indicate non-subreq lines David Howells
2022-03-08 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] netfs: Refactor arguments for netfs_alloc_read_request David Howells
2022-03-08 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] netfs: Change ->init_request() to return an error code David Howells
2022-03-09 16:52   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:28 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] netfs: Add a netfs inode context David Howells
2022-03-09 18:22   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-09 19:23   ` David Howells
2022-03-09 19:46     ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:29 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] netfs: Add a function to consolidate beginning a read David Howells
2022-03-09 19:26   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-09 22:08   ` David Howells
2022-03-08 23:29 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] netfs: Prepare to split read_helper.c David Howells
2022-03-08 23:29 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] netfs: Rename read_helper.c to io.c David Howells
2022-03-08 23:29 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] netfs: Split fs/netfs/read_helper.c David Howells
2022-03-09 20:27   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-08 23:29 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] netfs: Split some core bits out into their own file David Howells
2022-03-08 23:29 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] netfs: Keep track of the actual remote file size David Howells
2022-03-09 20:45   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-09 22:27   ` David Howells [this message]
2022-03-08 23:30 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] afs: Maintain netfs_i_context::remote_i_size David Howells
2022-03-09 21:12   ` Jeff Layton
2022-03-09 22:35   ` David Howells

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