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From: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: "Günther Noack" <gnoack3000@gmail.com>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Steve French" <sfrench@samba.org>,
	"Hyunchul Lee" <hyc.lee@gmail.com>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Konstantin Meskhidze" <konstantin.meskhidze@huawei.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/5] security: create file_truncate hook from path_truncate hook
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:55:25 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKYAXd8fpMJ7guizOjHgxEyyjoUwPsx3jLOPZP=wPYcbhkVXqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75712f0b-7091-f2ee-bfa3-66a0be60ec1e@digikod.net>

2022-09-29 5:04 GMT+09:00, Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net>:
>
> On 26/09/2022 18:07, Günther Noack wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 07:30:24PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
>>> We may indeed need to change fs/open.c:vfs_truncate() because of these
>>> different call sites. I'm not sure how these subsystems work though.
>>
>> I thought about this some more, and I'm coming around to the
>> conclusion that we should not block the truncate patch set on changes
>> in ksmbd and cachefiles.
>>
>> The reasoning is:
>>
>> * Landlock does already work for ksmbd and cachefiles. vfs_truncate
>>    does call the security_path_truncate() hook in the background.
>>
>> * ksmbd and cachefiles using vfs_truncate() in kernel space is roughly
>>    equivalent to a user space program using truncate(2) in a place
>>    where ftruncate(2) is possible. It might not be the most elegant
>>    approach, but it's legitimate to do.
>>
>> * Like with any userspace program that is supposed to run under
>>    Landlock, ksmbd and cachefiles both may need to be adapted slightly
>>    to work well with Landlock enforcement. It is up to the person
>>    adding the Landlock enforcement to double check that the program
>>    works correctly under the enforced ruleset. This is true for both
>>    programs running in user space and kernel space.
>>
>> So yes, to run ksmbd and cachefiles under Landlock, we may need to
>> extract a fs/open.c:vfs_ftruncate() in addition to vfs_truncate(), but
>> I don't think it should be part of this patch set.
>>
>> So my proposal would be to:
>>
>> * not do the ksmbd and cachefiles changes now,
>>
>> * but leave them for later when someone actually tries to run ksmbd or
>>    cachefiles under Landlock.
>>
>> If these components never get executed in a Landlocked context, all
>> the better - we can spare ourselves a more complicated refactoring in
>> a core part of the kernel.
>
>  From my understanding, ksmbd should be treated as a process, but
> without file descriptors, which excludes it from calling ftruncate-like
> interfaces. Furthermore, I think ksmbd cannot be sandboxed because it
> calls prepare_kernel_cred(NULL) which then uses init_cred.
>
> As a side node, using current_user_ns() in this context looks like a
> bug… I think it should be &init_user_ns instead. Any though Namjae,
> Steve or Hyunchul?
Agreed, Could you please send the patch for this to the list ?

Thanks!
>
> About cachefiles, I think it should be OK to ignore it, but I'd really
> like to get some input from file system folks. Any though David or
> Christian?
>
>
>>
>> FWIW, I've played around with it yesterday and found that the change
>> to extract a new "vfs_ftruncate()" next to vfs_truncate() is
>> reasonably self-contained. But I'm not a file system expert either,
>> it's well possible that I'm overlooking something.
>>
>> Let me know what you think!
>>
>>> On 08/09/2022 22:28, Günther Noack wrote:
>>>> Adding Namjae Jeon and David Howells as authors of the respective
>>>> files in fs/ksmbd and fs/cachefiles -- do you happen to know whether
>>>> these vfs_truncate() calls are using 'struct file's that are opened by
>>>> normal userspace processes, where LSM policies may apply?
>>>>
>>>> P.S. In this patch I have looked for all places where the
>>>> security_path_truncate() hook was called, to see which of these should
>>>> rather use security_file_truncate() (and I made sure that it does the
>>>> same thing for all the LSMs that use it).
>>>>
>>>> I'm confident that this does the right thing when truncate() or
>>>> ftruncate() are called from userspace, but one of the places that
>>>> still calls the path-based hook is vfs_truncate(), and this is called
>>>> from more places in the kernel than just from userspace:
>>>>
>>>> init/initramfs.c
>>>> 387:				vfs_truncate(&wfile->f_path, body_len);
>>>>
>>>> security/keys/big_key.c
>>>> 172:		vfs_truncate(&payload->path, 0);
>>>>
>>>> fs/cachefiles/interface.c
>>>> 242:		ret = vfs_truncate(&file->f_path, dio_size);
>>>>
>>>> fs/cachefiles/namei.c
>>>> 497:			ret = vfs_truncate(&path, ni_size); >
>>>> fs/ksmbd/smb2pdu.c
>>>> 2350:	int rc = vfs_truncate(path, 0);
>>>>
>>>> fs/ksmbd/vfs.c
>>>> 874:	err = vfs_truncate(&filp->f_path, size);
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that these are benign but am not familiar with all of these
>>>> corners of the codebase. -- The question is: Some of these call
>>>> vfs_truncate() on the f_path of an existing struct file -- should
>>>> these rather be calling the security_file_truncate() than the
>>>> security_path_truncate() hook to authorize the truncation?
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, I think:
>>>>
>>>> * initramfs happens at system startup and LSMs should not interfere at
>>>>     this point yet
>>>> * security/keys does not use an opened struct file, so calling the
>>>>     path-based hook through vfs_truncate() is correct
>>>> * fs/cachefiles and fs/ksmbd use the file system from the kernel to
>>>>     expose it as another file system (in a cached form for cachefiles,
>>>>     and over the network for ksmbd). I suspect that these file systems
>>>>     are not handling 'struct file's which are opened in contexts where
>>>> a
>>>>     LSM applies? It that a reasonable assumption?
>>>
>>> I think you're right but I have some doubts about the cachefiles
>>> subsystem.
>>> I don't know how ksmb deals with these file descriptors but changing
>>> such
>>> call sites (where there is a struct file) could improve API consistency
>>> though.
>>> Any though?
>>
>> My conclusion is already summarized above, and I've tried to abstract
>> away from the concrete use cases. For completeness, I've also looked
>> into ksmbd and cachefiles specifically though so see whether
>> security_path_truncate and security_file_truncate would make a
>> difference.
>>
>> For ksmbd, I strongly suspect it does not make a difference (90%
>> confidence) -- the files are getting opened by the same request
>> handler context which is also truncating the files later on behalf of
>> a truncation operation in the SMB protocol. It's anyway unclear to me
>> whether the kernel tasks executing this can be put under Landlock
>> enforcement at all..?
>>
>> fs/cachefiles is a more layered system and uses some
>> cachefiles-independent caching structures with void* pointers, whose
>> values I found difficult to trace. I'm less certain about this one as
>> well, but as discussed above, it does not make a difference as long as
>> none of the cachefiles code executes in a Landlock context. I'm still
>> in favor of decoupling potential ksmbd and cachefiles changes from
>> this patch set.
>>
>> —Günther
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Günther
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 09:58:01PM +0200, Günther Noack wrote:
>>>>> Like path_truncate, the file_truncate hook also restricts file
>>>>> truncation, but is called in the cases where truncation is attempted
>>>>> on an already-opened file.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is required in a subsequent commit to handle ftruncate()
>>>>> operations differently to truncate() operations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Günther Noack <gnoack3000@gmail.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>    fs/namei.c                    |  6 +++---
>>>>>    fs/open.c                     |  4 ++--
>>>>>    include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h |  1 +
>>>>>    include/linux/security.h      |  6 ++++++
>>>>>    security/apparmor/lsm.c       |  6 ++++++
>>>>>    security/security.c           |  5 +++++
>>>>>    security/tomoyo/tomoyo.c      | 13 +++++++++++++
>>>>>    7 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/fs/namei.c b/fs/namei.c
>>>>> index 53b4bc094db2..52105873d1f8 100644
>>>>> --- a/fs/namei.c
>>>>> +++ b/fs/namei.c
>>>>> @@ -53,8 +53,8 @@
>>>>>     * The new code replaces the old recursive symlink resolution with
>>>>>     * an iterative one (in case of non-nested symlink chains).  It
>>>>> does
>>>>>     * this with calls to <fs>_follow_link().
>>>>> - * As a side effect, dir_namei(), _namei() and follow_link() are now
>>>>> - * replaced with a single function lookup_dentry() that can handle
>>>>> all
>>>>> + * As a side effect, dir_namei(), _namei() and follow_link() are now
>>>>> + * replaced with a single function lookup_dentry() that can handle
>>>>> all
>>>>>     * the special cases of the former code.
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     * With the new dcache, the pathname is stored at each inode, at
>>>>> least as
>>>>> @@ -3211,7 +3211,7 @@ static int handle_truncate(struct user_namespace
>>>>> *mnt_userns, struct file *filp)
>>>>>    	if (error)
>>>>>    		return error;
>>>>>
>>>>> -	error = security_path_truncate(path);
>>>>> +	error = security_file_truncate(filp);
>>>>>    	if (!error) {
>>>>>    		error = do_truncate(mnt_userns, path->dentry, 0,
>>>>>    				    ATTR_MTIME|ATTR_CTIME|ATTR_OPEN,
>>>>> diff --git a/fs/open.c b/fs/open.c
>>>>> index 8a813fa5ca56..0831433e493a 100644
>>>>> --- a/fs/open.c
>>>>> +++ b/fs/open.c
>>>>> @@ -188,7 +188,7 @@ long do_sys_ftruncate(unsigned int fd, loff_t
>>>>> length, int small)
>>>>>    	if (IS_APPEND(file_inode(f.file)))
>>>>>    		goto out_putf;
>>>>>    	sb_start_write(inode->i_sb);
>>>>> -	error = security_path_truncate(&f.file->f_path);
>>>>> +	error = security_file_truncate(f.file);
>>>>>    	if (!error)
>>>>>    		error = do_truncate(file_mnt_user_ns(f.file), dentry, length,
>>>>>    				    ATTR_MTIME | ATTR_CTIME, f.file);
>>>>> @@ -1271,7 +1271,7 @@ struct file *filp_open(const char *filename, int
>>>>> flags, umode_t mode)
>>>>>    {
>>>>>    	struct filename *name = getname_kernel(filename);
>>>>>    	struct file *file = ERR_CAST(name);
>>>>> -
>>>>> +
>>>>>    	if (!IS_ERR(name)) {
>>>>>    		file = file_open_name(name, flags, mode);
>>>>>    		putname(name);
>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h
>>>>> b/include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h
>>>>> index 60fff133c0b1..dee35ab253ba 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h
>>>>> @@ -177,6 +177,7 @@ LSM_HOOK(int, 0, file_send_sigiotask, struct
>>>>> task_struct *tsk,
>>>>>    	 struct fown_struct *fown, int sig)
>>>>>    LSM_HOOK(int, 0, file_receive, struct file *file)
>>>>>    LSM_HOOK(int, 0, file_open, struct file *file)
>>>>> +LSM_HOOK(int, 0, file_truncate, struct file *file)
>>>>>    LSM_HOOK(int, 0, task_alloc, struct task_struct *task,
>>>>>    	 unsigned long clone_flags)
>>>>>    LSM_HOOK(void, LSM_RET_VOID, task_free, struct task_struct *task)
>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/security.h b/include/linux/security.h
>>>>> index 7bd0c490703d..f80b23382dd9 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/linux/security.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/security.h
>>>>> @@ -394,6 +394,7 @@ int security_file_send_sigiotask(struct task_struct
>>>>> *tsk,
>>>>>    				 struct fown_struct *fown, int sig);
>>>>>    int security_file_receive(struct file *file);
>>>>>    int security_file_open(struct file *file);
>>>>> +int security_file_truncate(struct file *file);
>>>>>    int security_task_alloc(struct task_struct *task, unsigned long
>>>>> clone_flags);
>>>>>    void security_task_free(struct task_struct *task);
>>>>>    int security_cred_alloc_blank(struct cred *cred, gfp_t gfp);
>>>>> @@ -1011,6 +1012,11 @@ static inline int security_file_open(struct file
>>>>> *file)
>>>>>    	return 0;
>>>>>    }
>>>>>
>>>>> +static inline int security_file_truncate(struct file *file)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	return 0;
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>>    static inline int security_task_alloc(struct task_struct *task,
>>>>>    				      unsigned long clone_flags)
>>>>>    {
>>>>> diff --git a/security/apparmor/lsm.c b/security/apparmor/lsm.c
>>>>> index e29cade7b662..98ecb7f221b8 100644
>>>>> --- a/security/apparmor/lsm.c
>>>>> +++ b/security/apparmor/lsm.c
>>>>> @@ -329,6 +329,11 @@ static int apparmor_path_truncate(const struct
>>>>> path *path)
>>>>>    	return common_perm_cond(OP_TRUNC, path, MAY_WRITE |
>>>>> AA_MAY_SETATTR);
>>>>>    }
>>>>>
>>>>> +static int apparmor_file_truncate(struct file *file)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	return apparmor_path_truncate(&file->f_path);
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>>    static int apparmor_path_symlink(const struct path *dir, struct
>>>>> dentry *dentry,
>>>>>    				 const char *old_name)
>>>>>    {
>>>>> @@ -1232,6 +1237,7 @@ static struct security_hook_list apparmor_hooks[]
>>>>> __lsm_ro_after_init = {
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(mmap_file, apparmor_mmap_file),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(file_mprotect, apparmor_file_mprotect),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(file_lock, apparmor_file_lock),
>>>>> +	LSM_HOOK_INIT(file_truncate, apparmor_file_truncate),
>>>>>
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(getprocattr, apparmor_getprocattr),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(setprocattr, apparmor_setprocattr),
>>>>> diff --git a/security/security.c b/security/security.c
>>>>> index 4b95de24bc8d..e491120c48ba 100644
>>>>> --- a/security/security.c
>>>>> +++ b/security/security.c
>>>>> @@ -1210,6 +1210,11 @@ int security_path_truncate(const struct path
>>>>> *path)
>>>>>    	return call_int_hook(path_truncate, 0, path);
>>>>>    }
>>>>>
>>>>> +int security_file_truncate(struct file *file)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	return call_int_hook(file_truncate, 0, file);
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>>    int security_path_chmod(const struct path *path, umode_t mode)
>>>>>    {
>>>>>    	if (unlikely(IS_PRIVATE(d_backing_inode(path->dentry))))
>>>>> diff --git a/security/tomoyo/tomoyo.c b/security/tomoyo/tomoyo.c
>>>>> index 71e82d855ebf..af04a7b7eb28 100644
>>>>> --- a/security/tomoyo/tomoyo.c
>>>>> +++ b/security/tomoyo/tomoyo.c
>>>>> @@ -134,6 +134,18 @@ static int tomoyo_path_truncate(const struct path
>>>>> *path)
>>>>>    	return tomoyo_path_perm(TOMOYO_TYPE_TRUNCATE, path, NULL);
>>>>>    }
>>>>>
>>>>> +/**
>>>>> + * tomoyo_file_truncate - Target for security_file_truncate().
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * @file: Pointer to "struct file".
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * Returns 0 on success, negative value otherwise.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> +static int tomoyo_file_truncate(struct file *file)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	return tomoyo_path_truncate(&file->f_path);
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>>    /**
>>>>>     * tomoyo_path_unlink - Target for security_path_unlink().
>>>>>     *
>>>>> @@ -545,6 +557,7 @@ static struct security_hook_list tomoyo_hooks[]
>>>>> __lsm_ro_after_init = {
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(bprm_check_security, tomoyo_bprm_check_security),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(file_fcntl, tomoyo_file_fcntl),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(file_open, tomoyo_file_open),
>>>>> +	LSM_HOOK_INIT(file_truncate, tomoyo_file_truncate),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(path_truncate, tomoyo_path_truncate),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(path_unlink, tomoyo_path_unlink),
>>>>>    	LSM_HOOK_INIT(path_mkdir, tomoyo_path_mkdir),
>>>>> --
>>>>> 2.37.3
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-29  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-08 19:58 [PATCH v6 0/5] landlock: truncate support Günther Noack
2022-09-08 19:58 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] security: create file_truncate hook from path_truncate hook Günther Noack
2022-09-08 20:09   ` Paul Moore
2022-09-08 20:50     ` Günther Noack
2022-09-08 22:04       ` Tetsuo Handa
2022-09-08 20:28   ` Günther Noack
2022-09-16 17:30     ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-26 16:07       ` Günther Noack
2022-09-28 20:04         ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-29  2:55           ` Namjae Jeon [this message]
2022-09-09  3:37   ` John Johansen
2022-09-09 13:50   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-08 19:58 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] landlock: Support file truncation Günther Noack
2022-09-09 13:51   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-12 15:28     ` Günther Noack
2022-09-12 18:37       ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-12 19:04         ` Günther Noack
2022-09-12 19:41   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-23 11:21     ` Günther Noack
2022-09-23 20:53       ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-25 18:09         ` Günther Noack
2022-09-28 18:32           ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-29 19:22             ` Günther Noack
2022-09-30 15:56               ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-08 19:58 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] selftests/landlock: Selftests for file truncation support Günther Noack
2022-09-16 17:05   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-23 17:50     ` Günther Noack
2022-09-23 20:54       ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-25 18:10         ` Günther Noack
2022-09-08 19:58 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] samples/landlock: Extend sample tool to support LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_TRUNCATE Günther Noack
2022-09-12 19:05   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-12 19:07     ` Günther Noack
2022-09-08 19:58 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] landlock: Document Landlock's file truncation support Günther Noack
2022-09-09 13:51   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-12 15:46     ` Günther Noack
2022-09-12 17:47       ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-12 19:05         ` Günther Noack
2022-09-12 19:15   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-09-23 11:30     ` Günther Noack

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