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From: David Young <dyoung-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: radiotap <radiotap-rN9S6JXhQ+WXmMXjJBpWqg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: use of radiotap bit 14?
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:06:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070912180619.GB17887@che.ojctech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1188512214.7585.3.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:16:54AM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> Our radiotap header in Linux defines bit 14 as
> IEEE80211_RADIOTAP_RX_FLAGS; however running wireshark on it tells me
> that this bit means "FCS in header". Does anybody know which use is
> correct, if any?
> 
> Maybe we should simply skip to bit 32 or something and start redefining
> things properly?

There are technical reasons that we cannot simply skip.  I have a couple
of technical solutions in mind.

Solution 1: introduce a new bit, m, that nobody has used so far.
        Let it stand for the presence of a 32-bit magic number.
        When an interpreter sees a header whose presence bit 14 is
        set, let it test presence bit m.  If m is not present, let the
        interpreter abort.  If m is present, let the interpreter skip
        forward until it finds the magic at a 32-bit boundary.  Let it
        continue processing presence bits > m in the usual way.

Solution 2: increase the radiotap version number, and start over from
        bit 0.  Now we need a "legacy" parser for v0, 0 <= bit <= 13,
        and a "next gen" parser for v1.  No v0 header with bits >=
        14 set can be interpreted without ambiguity.

        2a: adopt all of the legacy presence bits 0 through 13 in v1
        2b: adopt some of the legacy presence bits in v1
        2c: start from scratch for v1

We could also use both Solution 1 and Solution 2; let interpreters treat
every v0 bit >= 14 as vendor-specific.

Dave

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David Young             OJC Technologies
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-12 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-30 22:16 use of radiotap bit 14? Johannes Berg
     [not found] ` <1188512214.7585.3.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 14:47   ` Pavel Roskin
2007-08-31 16:23     ` Sam Leffler
     [not found]       ` <46D84073.3090709-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 16:33         ` Sam Leffler
2007-08-31 16:50     ` Gerald Combs
     [not found]       ` <46D846E4.20103-IZ8446WsY0/dtAWm4Da02A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 21:57         ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]           ` <1188597475.7585.46.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 22:17             ` Pavel Roskin
2007-09-12 17:17             ` David Young
     [not found]               ` <20070912171755.GA17887-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-12 19:21                 ` Gerald Combs
2007-09-13  7:18                 ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                   ` <1189667921.6161.86.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-26 16:58                     ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                       ` <1196096301.4149.309.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-26 18:13                         ` David Young
     [not found]                           ` <20071126181329.GA3568-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 13:21                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-09-12 18:06   ` David Young [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20070912180619.GB17887-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-12 19:03       ` Pavel Roskin
2007-09-13 18:06         ` David Young
     [not found]           ` <20070913180618.GK17887-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 18:15             ` Guy Harris
2007-09-13  7:29       ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <1189668582.6161.91.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-07 23:55           ` David Young
     [not found]             ` <20071007235551.GN6429-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-08  9:45               ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                 ` <1191836708.4063.17.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 16:13                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-11 23:09               ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-12 17:27               ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 18:10               ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                 ` <1213899026.8967.56.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:41                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 17:44   ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]     ` <1213897499.8967.46.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 17:59       ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <1213898387.8967.54.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:28           ` Gerald Combs
     [not found]             ` <485AA531.4010408-IZ8446WsY0/dtAWm4Da02A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:34               ` Guy Harris
     [not found]                 ` <485AA6C3.8090303-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:37                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 20:05           ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 18:13       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-06-19 18:18         ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]           ` <1213899529.8967.62.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:39             ` Pavel Roskin
2008-06-19 18:43               ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 18:56       ` David Young
     [not found]         ` <20080619185646.GA17738-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:10           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]             ` <1213902633.8967.84.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:33               ` Guy Harris
     [not found]                 ` <485AB49B.4080403-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:59                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 19:39               ` David Young
     [not found]                 ` <20080619193958.GB17738-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:51                   ` Guy Harris
     [not found]                     ` <485AB8B0.7060606-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 20:06                       ` Loris Degioanni
     [not found]                         ` <485ABC4A.4060801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 20:17                           ` Guy Harris
2008-06-19 20:25                           ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-01 16:35                       ` use of radiotap bit 14? [mostly 11n] Sam Leffler
2008-06-19 20:06                   ` use of radiotap bit 14? Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 22:33           ` Scott Raynel

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