From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
To: Scott Wood <swood@redhat.com>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Deadlock via recursive wakeup via RCU with threadirqs
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:36:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190627203612.GD26519@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13761fee4b71cc004ad0d6709875ce917ff28fce.camel@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 03:17:27PM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 11:41 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 02:16:38PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the fix should be to prevent the wake-up not based on whether we
> > > are
> > > in hard/soft-interrupt mode but that we are doing the rcu_read_unlock()
> > > from
> > > a scheduler path (if we can detect that)
> >
> > Or just don't do the wakeup at all, if it comes to that. I don't know
> > of any way to determine whether rcu_read_unlock() is being called from
> > the scheduler, but it has been some time since I asked Peter Zijlstra
> > about that.
> >
> > Of course, unconditionally refusing to do the wakeup might not be happy
> > thing for NO_HZ_FULL kernels that don't implement IRQ work.
>
> Couldn't smp_send_reschedule() be used instead?
Good point. If current -rcu doesn't fix things for Sebastian's case,
that would be well worth looking at. But there must be some reason
why Peter Zijlstra didn't suggest it when he instead suggested using
the IRQ work approach.
Peter, thoughts?
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-27 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-26 13:54 [RFC] Deadlock via recursive wakeup via RCU with threadirqs Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-06-26 16:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 7:47 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-06-27 15:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 14:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 14:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-27 15:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 15:37 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 15:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-06-27 15:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 17:43 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 17:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 18:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 18:27 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 18:51 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 19:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 18:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 20:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 15:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 16:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 18:16 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-27 18:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-27 20:17 ` Scott Wood
2019-06-27 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2019-06-28 7:31 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 7:43 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 8:14 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 8:24 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 12:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 9:10 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 9:28 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 12:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 10:40 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 12:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 15:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-06-29 15:12 ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-29 16:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-29 18:09 ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-29 18:21 ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-29 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-29 19:35 ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-30 23:55 ` Byungchul Park
2019-06-28 14:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28 15:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28 17:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-01 9:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-01 10:24 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-07-01 12:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-01 14:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-01 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 20:01 ` Scott Wood
2019-07-01 9:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28 15:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 18:40 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-06-28 18:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 19:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 20:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 21:40 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 22:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 23:12 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-29 0:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 16:40 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 16:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 17:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 17:45 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-06-28 18:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 18:20 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-07-01 2:08 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 18:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 19:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 20:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-28 18:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-06-28 18:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
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