From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rao Shoaib <rao.shoaib@oracle.com>,
max.byungchul.park@gmail.com, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v1 1/2] rcu/tree: Add basic support for kfree_rcu batching
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 17:25:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190809212512.GF255533@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190809202645.GD255533@google.com>
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 04:26:45PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 04:22:26PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 09:33:46AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:39:24AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 08:16:19AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 07:30:14PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > But I could make it something like:
> > > > > > > 1. Letting ->head grow if ->head_free busy
> > > > > > > 2. If head_free is busy, then just queue/requeue the monitor to try again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This would even improve performance, but will still risk going out of memory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems I can indeed hit an out of memory condition once I changed it to
> > > > > > "letting list grow" (diff is below which applies on top of this patch) while
> > > > > > at the same time removing the schedule_timeout(2) and replacing it with
> > > > > > cond_resched() in the rcuperf test. I think the reason is the rcuperf test
> > > > > > starves the worker threads that are executing in workqueue context after a
> > > > > > grace period and those are unable to get enough CPU time to kfree things fast
> > > > > > enough. But I am not fully sure about it and need to test/trace more to
> > > > > > figure out why this is happening.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I add back the schedule_uninterruptibe_timeout(2) call, the out of memory
> > > > > > situation goes away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Clearly we need to do more work on this patch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the regular kfree_rcu_no_batch() case, I don't hit this issue. I believe
> > > > > > that since the kfree is happening in softirq context in the _no_batch() case,
> > > > > > it fares better. The question then I guess is how do we run the rcu_work in a
> > > > > > higher priority context so it is not starved and runs often enough. I'll
> > > > > > trace more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps I can also lower the priority of the rcuperf threads to give the
> > > > > > worker thread some more room to run and see if anything changes. But I am not
> > > > > > sure then if we're preparing the code for the real world with such
> > > > > > modifications.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Several! With luck, perhaps some are useful. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > o Increase the memory via kvm.sh "--memory 1G" or more. The
> > > > > default is "--memory 500M".
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, this definitely helped.
> >
> > Also, I can go back to 500M if I just keep KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES at HZ/50. So I
> > am quite happy about that. I think I can declare that the "let list grow
> > indefinitely" design works quite well even with an insanely heavily loaded
> > case of every CPU in a 16CPU system with 500M memory, indefinitely doing
> > kfree_rcu()in a tight loop with appropriate cond_resched(). And I am like
> > thinking - wow how does this stuff even work at such insane scales :-D
>
> Oh, and I should probably also count whether there are any 'total number of
> grace periods' reduction, due to the batching!
And, the number of grace periods did dramatically drop (by 5X) with the
batching!! I have modified the rcuperf test to show the number of grace
periods that elapsed during the test.
thanks,
- Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-09 21:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-06 21:20 [PATCH RFC v1 1/2] rcu/tree: Add basic support for kfree_rcu batching Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-08-06 21:20 ` [PATCH RFC v1 2/2] rcuperf: Add kfree_rcu performance Tests Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-08-07 0:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-07 10:22 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-07 17:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-09 16:01 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-11 2:01 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-11 23:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-06 23:56 ` [PATCH RFC v1 1/2] rcu/tree: Add basic support for kfree_rcu batching Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-07 9:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-07 17:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-08 9:52 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-08 12:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-08 14:23 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-08 18:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-11 8:36 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-11 8:49 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-11 23:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-12 10:10 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-12 13:12 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-13 5:29 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-13 15:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-14 0:11 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-14 2:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-14 3:43 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-14 16:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-11 10:37 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-08 23:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-09 15:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-09 15:39 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-09 16:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-09 20:22 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-09 20:26 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-09 21:25 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2019-08-10 3:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-09 20:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-09 20:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-09 21:36 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-10 3:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-10 3:52 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-10 2:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-10 3:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-10 4:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-10 18:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-11 2:26 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-11 23:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-12 13:13 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-12 14:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-08 10:26 ` Byungchul Park
2019-08-08 18:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-08 20:13 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-08 20:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-08 22:34 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-08 22:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
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