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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] rcu/tree: Try to invoke_rcu_core() if in_irq() during unlock
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 18:35:11 -0400
Message-ID: <20190818223511.GB143857@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190818223230.GA143857@google.com>

On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 06:32:30PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 03:12:10PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 05:49:48PM -0400, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > > When we're in hard interrupt context in rcu_read_unlock_special(), we
> > > can still benefit from invoke_rcu_core() doing wake ups of rcuc
> > > threads when the !use_softirq parameter is passed.  This is safe
> > > to do so because:
> > > 
> > > 1. We avoid the scheduler deadlock issues thanks to the deferred_qs bit
> > > introduced in commit 23634ebc1d94 ("rcu: Check for wakeup-safe
> > > conditions in rcu_read_unlock_special()") by checking for the same in
> > > this patch.
> > > 
> > > 2. in_irq() implies in_interrupt() which implies raising softirq will
> > > not do any wake ups.
> > > 
> > > The rcuc thread which is awakened will run when the interrupt returns.
> > > 
> > > We also honor 25102de ("rcu: Only do rcu_read_unlock_special() wakeups
> > > if expedited") thus doing the rcuc awakening only when none of the
> > > following are true:
> > >   1. Critical section is blocking an expedited GP.
> > >   2. A nohz_full CPU.
> > > If neither of these cases are true (exp == false), then the "else" block
> > > will run to do the irq_work stuff.
> > > 
> > > This commit is based on a partial revert of d143b3d1cd89 ("rcu: Simplify
> > > rcu_read_unlock_special() deferred wakeups") with an additional in_irq()
> > > check added.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes (Google) <joel@joelfernandes.org>
> > 
> > OK, I will bite...  If it is safe to wake up an rcuc kthread, why
> > is it not safe to do raise_softirq()?
> 
> Because raise_softirq should not be done and/or doesn't do anything
> if use_softirq == false. In fact, RCU_SOFTIRQ doesn't even existing if
> use_softirq == false. The "else if" condition of this patch uses for
> use_softirq.
> 
> Or, did I miss your point?
> 
> > And from the nit department, looks like some whitespace damage on the
> > comments.
> 
> I will fix all of these in the change log, it was just a quick RFC I sent
> with the idea, tagged as RFC and not yet for merging. I should also remove
> the comment about " in_irq() implies in_interrupt() which implies raising
> softirq" from the changelog since this patch is only concerned with the rcuc
> kthread.

Ah, I see you mean the comments on the code. Perhaps something went wrong
when I did 'git revert' on the original patch, or some such. Anyway, please
consider this as RFC-grade only. And hopefully I have been writing better
change logs (really trying!!).

thanks,

 - Joel


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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-18 21:49 Joel Fernandes (Google)
2019-08-18 22:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-18 22:32   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-18 22:35     ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2019-08-18 23:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-18 23:38         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-19  1:21           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-19  1:41             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-19  1:46               ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-19  2:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-19 12:57                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-19 14:33                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-19 15:41                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-19 16:25                         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-21 14:38                         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-21 14:56                           ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-21 15:26                             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-21 15:47                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-21 15:39                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-21 15:46                               ` Joel Fernandes
2019-08-21 15:26                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-08-20  0:14 ` Scott Wood
2019-08-20  1:40   ` Joel Fernandes

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