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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/7] rcu: use preempt_count to test whether scheduler locks is held
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:59:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200219035920.GR2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200219033147.GA103554@google.com>

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:31:47PM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 12:45:53PM +0000, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> > Ever since preemption was introduced to linux kernel,
> > irq disabled spinlocks are always held with preemption
> > disabled. One of the reason is that sometimes we need
> > to use spin_unlock() which will do preempt_enable()
> > to unlock the irq disabled spinlock with keeping irq
> > disabled. So preempt_count can be used to test whether
> > scheduler locks is possible held.
> > 
> > CC: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@linux.alibaba.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h | 8 ++++++--
> >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> > index 0982e9886103..aba5896d67e3 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> > @@ -603,10 +603,14 @@ static void rcu_read_unlock_special(struct task_struct *t)
> >  		      tick_nohz_full_cpu(rdp->cpu);
> >  		// Need to defer quiescent state until everything is enabled.
> >  		if (irqs_were_disabled && use_softirq &&
> > -		    (in_interrupt() ||
> > -		     (exp && !t->rcu_read_unlock_special.b.deferred_qs))) {
> > +		    (in_interrupt() || (exp && !preempt_bh_were_disabled))) {
> >  			// Using softirq, safe to awaken, and we get
> >  			// no help from enabling irqs, unlike bh/preempt.
> > +			// in_interrupt(): raise_softirq_irqoff() is
> > +			// guaranteed not to not do wakeup
> > +			// !preempt_bh_were_disabled: scheduler locks cannot
> > +			// be held, since spinlocks are always held with
> > +			// preempt_disable(), so the wakeup will be safe.
> 
> This means if preemption is disabled for any reason (other than scheduler
> locks), such as acquiring an unrelated lock that is not held by the
> scheduler, then the softirq would not be raised even if it was safe to
> do so. From that respect, it seems a step back no?

This patch was one of the things motivating me to turn tick on for
nohz_full CPUs that spend too long in the kernel.  Given that change,
this patch can be (and recently was) made more straightforward.  Prior to
the nohz_full change, Lai was kind of between a rock and a hard place
on this one.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

> thanks,
> 
>  - Joel
> 
> 
> >  			raise_softirq_irqoff(RCU_SOFTIRQ);
> >  		} else {
> >  			// Enabling BH or preempt does reschedule, so...
> > -- 
> > 2.20.1
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-19  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-02 12:45 [PATCH V2 0/7] rcu: introduce percpu rcu_preempt_depth Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-02 12:45 ` [PATCH V2 1/7] rcu: use preempt_count to test whether scheduler locks is held Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-15 16:53   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-19  3:31   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-02-19  3:59     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2019-11-02 12:45 ` [PATCH V2 2/7] rcu: cleanup rcu_preempt_deferred_qs() Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-03  2:01   ` Boqun Feng
2019-11-03  5:01     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-04 14:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-05  2:09         ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-05  7:19           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-11 14:32             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-12  1:28               ` Lai Jiangshan
2020-02-17 23:23                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-02-18 14:41                   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-18 16:43                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-15 16:55   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 12:45 ` [PATCH V2 3/7] rcu: remove useless special.b.deferred_qs Lai Jiangshan
2020-02-17 23:23   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 12:45 ` [PATCH V2 4/7] rcu: don't use negative ->rcu_read_lock_nesting Lai Jiangshan
2020-02-17 23:26   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 12:45 ` [PATCH V2 5/7] rcu: wrap usages of rcu_read_lock_nesting Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-15 22:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 12:45 ` [PATCH V2 6/7] rcu: clear the special.b.need_qs in rcu_note_context_switch() Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-16 15:46   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 12:45 ` [PATCH V2 7/7] x86,rcu: use percpu rcu_preempt_depth Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-02 16:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-11-03  4:33     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-04  9:25   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-11-04 11:41     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-04 12:09       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-11-16 15:48   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-18  2:02     ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-18 14:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-19  1:59         ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-19 21:14           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-20  2:47             ` Lai Jiangshan
2019-11-21  4:02               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 15:05 ` [PATCH V2 0/7] rcu: introduce " Paul E. McKenney

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