From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
joel@joelfernandes.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] rcu: Use static initializer for krc.lock
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:13:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200422111324.cummbkw2faxoeaxk@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200421180914.GT17661@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>
On 2020-04-21 11:09:14 [-0700], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Yes but why do we do this raw_spinlock_t here? It is not yet needed on
> > v5.6-RT as I *did* check. It also complicates the code for !RT but
> > nobody responded to that part but…
>
> I did respond by pointing out that the essentially similar call_rcu()
> function ends up being invoked pretty much everywhere, including early
> boot before rcu_init() has been invoked. It is therefore only reasonable
> to assume that there will be a need for kfree_rcu() to tolerate a similar
> range of calling contexts.
Early in the boot we have IRQs disabled but also one CPU and no
scheduling. That means that not a single lock is contained.
> > That said: the current memory allocation is the problem here. The
> > remaining part is fine. The part under the lock is small enough so it
> > should not cause the trouble if it invokes queue_work() which will
> > "only" enqueue the timer.
>
> To your point, the small memory allocation will be going away. The
> memory allocations will pull in 4K pages of pointers.
Oki.
> On the timer, are you thinking of the queue_work() calls or instead of
> the queue_delayed_work() calls?
As of now, on the "first" invocation of kfree_rcu() it invokes
queue_delayed_work(). The work is not active, the timer is not pending
so it always enqueues a new timer.
> > Side question: Is there any real-life workloads that benefits from this?
> > I'm asking because rcuperf allocates the kfree_rcu() the pointer right
> > away. The chances are high that the pointer are fed from the same page.
> > SLUB's build_detached_freelist() scans the page of RCU's pointers to
> > ensure that they are in the same page and then slab_free() them in one
> > go. There is lookahead = 3 so it finds three different pages it stops
> > further scanning and does slab_free() with what it found so far.
> >
> > Which means if your kfree_rcu() collects random pointer from the system,
> > they may belong to different pages (especially if they are part of
> > different "types").
>
> It gets significantly better performance as it currently is due to
> the reduced cache-miss rate scanning pointers in a page as opposed to
> pointer-chasing through a series of rcu_head pointers.
So the performance boost is not due to kfree_bulk() but due to the
pointers which are "in ordered".
> Yes, it might be even better if kfree_rcu() further sorted the freed
> objects per slab or maybe even per page within a slab, but one step at
> a time! For one thing, it is not hard to imagine situations where this
> further sorting actually slowed things down, especially if the system
> was under any sort of memory pressure or if the kfree_rcu() calls were
> scattered across so many slabs and pages that it essentially reverted
> back to pointer chasing.
Okay.
> Make sense, or am I missing your point?
No, you got it.
> Thanx, Paul
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-22 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-15 16:00 [PATCH 0/3] rcu: Static initializer + misc Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-15 16:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] rcu: Use static initializer for krc.lock Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 14:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 15:01 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 15:20 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 15:38 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 15:46 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 16:01 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 16:11 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 16:18 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 16:33 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 17:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16 18:23 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 18:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16 18:43 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 20:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 21:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 21:07 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 18:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-16 18:53 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 19:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-16 20:41 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 21:05 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 17:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16 15:18 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 18:41 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 18:59 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 19:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-16 19:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16 20:05 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 20:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16 21:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 21:18 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 21:26 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-16 21:28 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-16 20:36 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-16 21:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16 21:34 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-17 3:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-17 8:47 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-17 15:04 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-17 18:26 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-17 18:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-18 12:37 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-19 14:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 0:27 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-20 1:17 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-20 1:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 12:13 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 12:36 ` joel
2020-04-20 13:00 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 13:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 16:08 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 16:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 16:29 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 16:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 16:59 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 17:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 17:40 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 17:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-20 18:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 17:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 19:06 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 20:17 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-20 22:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-21 1:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-21 5:18 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-21 13:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-21 13:45 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-21 13:39 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-21 15:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-21 17:05 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-21 18:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-22 11:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2020-04-22 13:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-22 15:46 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-22 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-22 16:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-20 3:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2020-04-20 12:30 ` joel
2020-04-17 16:11 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-19 12:15 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-15 16:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] rcu: Use consistent locking around kfree_rcu_drain_unlock() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-15 16:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] rcu: Avoid using xchg() in kfree_call_rcu_add_ptr_to_bulk() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-04-20 15:23 ` Joel Fernandes
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