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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	paulmck@kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Theodore Y . Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sonymobile.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC-PATCH 1/2] mm: Add __GFP_NO_LOCKS flag
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 15:29:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200813132931.GA26290@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200813095840.GA25268@pc636>

Hello, Michal.

> > On Wed 12-08-20 02:13:25, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > [...]
> > > I can understand your rationale and what you are trying to solve. So, if
> > > we can actually have a distinct GFP variant:
> > > 
> > >   GFP_I_ABSOLUTELY_HAVE_TO_DO_THAT_AND_I_KNOW_IT_CAN_FAIL_EARLY
> > 
> > Even if we cannot make the zone->lock raw I would prefer to not
> > introduce a new gfp flag. Well we can do an alias for easier grepping
> > #define GFP_RT_SAFE	0
> > 
> > that would imply nowait semantic and would exclude waking up kswapd as
> > well. If we can make wake up safe under RT then the alias would reflect
> > that without any code changes.
> > 
> > The second, and the more important part, would be to bail out anytime
> > the page allocator is to take a lock which is not allowed in the current
> > RT context. Something like 
> > 	
> > diff --git a/include/linux/gfp.h b/include/linux/gfp.h
> > index 67a0774e080b..3ef3ac82d110 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/gfp.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
> > @@ -237,6 +237,9 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
> >   * that subsystems start with one of these combinations and then set/clear
> >   * %__GFP_FOO flags as necessary.
> >   *
> > + * %GFP_RT_SAFE users can not sleep and they are running under RT atomic context
> > + * e.g. under raw_spin_lock. Failure of an allocation is to be expected.
> > + *
> >   * %GFP_ATOMIC users can not sleep and need the allocation to succeed. A lower
> >   * watermark is applied to allow access to "atomic reserves"
> >   *
> > @@ -293,6 +296,7 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
> >   * version does not attempt reclaim/compaction at all and is by default used
> >   * in page fault path, while the non-light is used by khugepaged.
> >   */
> > +#define GFP_RT_SAFE	0
> >  #define GFP_ATOMIC	(__GFP_HIGH|__GFP_ATOMIC|__GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM)
> >  #define GFP_KERNEL	(__GFP_RECLAIM | __GFP_IO | __GFP_FS)
> >  #define GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT (GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_ACCOUNT)
> > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > index e028b87ce294..268ae872cc2a 100644
> > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > @@ -2824,6 +2824,13 @@ static int rmqueue_bulk(struct zone *zone, unsigned int order,
> >  {
> >  	int i, alloced = 0;
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Hard atomic contexts are not supported by the allocator for
> > +	 * anything but pcp requests
> > +	 */
> > +	if (!preemtable())
> > +		return 0;
> > +
> >  	spin_lock(&zone->lock);
> >  	for (i = 0; i < count; ++i) {
> >  		struct page *page = __rmqueue(zone, order, migratetype,
> > @@ -3371,6 +3378,13 @@ struct page *rmqueue(struct zone *preferred_zone,
> >  		goto out;
> >  	}
> >  
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Hard atomic contexts are not supported by the allocator for high
> > +	 * order requests
> > +	 */
> > +	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!preemtable()))
> > +		reurn NULL;
> > +
> >  	/*
> >  	 * We most definitely don't want callers attempting to
> >  	 * allocate greater than order-1 page units with __GFP_NOFAIL.
> > @@ -4523,6 +4537,12 @@ __alloc_pages_slowpath(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order,
> >  				(__GFP_ATOMIC|__GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM)))
> >  		gfp_mask &= ~__GFP_ATOMIC;
> >  
> > +	/* Hard atomic contexts support is very limited to the fast path */
> > +	if (!preemtable()) {
> > +		WARN_ON_ONCE(gfp_mask != GFP_RT_SAFE);
> > +		return NULL;
> > +	}
> > +
> >  retry_cpuset:
> >  	compaction_retries = 0;
> >  	no_progress_loops = 0;
> > 
> > What do you think?
> >  
> > > which is easy to grep for then having the page allocator go down to the
> > > point where zone lock gets involved is not the end of the world for
> > > RT in theory - unless that damned reality tells otherwise. :)
> > > 
> > > The page allocator allocations should also have a limit on the number of
> > > pages and eventually also page order (need to stare at the code or let
> > > Michal educate me that the order does not matter).
> > 
> > In practice anything but order 0 is out of question because we need
> > zone->lock for that currently. Maybe we can introduce pcp lists for
> > higher orders in the future - I have a vague recollection Mel was
> > playing with that some time ago.
> > 
> > > To make it consistent the same GFP_ variant should allow the slab
> > > allocator go to the point where the slab cache is exhausted.
> > > 
> > > Having a distinct and clearly defined GFP_ variant is really key to
> > > chase down offenders and to make reviewers double check upfront why this
> > > is absolutely required.
> > 
> > Having a high level and recognizable gfp mask is OK but I would really
> > like not to introduce a dedicated flag. The page allocator should be
> > able to recognize the context which cannot be handled. 
> >
> Sorry for jumping in. We can rely on preemptable() for sure, if CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
> is enabled, something like below:
> 
> if (IS_ENABLED_RT && preemptebale())
> 
I was a bit out of focus and did not mention about one thing. Identifying the context
type using preemtable() primitives looks a bit not suitable, IMHO. GFP_* flags are
not supposed to identify a context type, because it is not possible for all cases.
But that i

Also, to bail out based on a context's type will not allow to get a page from atomic
contexts, what we try to achieve :)

Whereas, i mean, we do have possibility to do lock-less per-cpu-list allocation without
touching any zone lock.

if (gfp_mask == 0) {
   check_pcp_lists();
      if (page)
          return page;

    bail out here without doing farther logic, like pre-fetching.
    return NULL;
}

For example consider our case:
kfree_rcu()-> raw_spin_lock() -> page_alloc-> preemtable() -> false

--
Vlad Rezki

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-13 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-09 20:43 [RFC-PATCH 0/2] __GFP_NO_LOCKS Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-08-09 20:43 ` [RFC-PATCH 1/2] mm: Add __GFP_NO_LOCKS flag Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-08-10 12:31   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-10 16:07     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-10 19:25       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11  8:19         ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11  9:37           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-11  9:42             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-11 10:28               ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11 10:45                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-11 10:26             ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11 11:33               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-11  9:18         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-11 10:21           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11 11:10             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-11 14:44         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-11 15:22           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-12 11:38             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-12 12:01               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-13  7:18               ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-11 15:33           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-11 15:43             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-11 15:56               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-08-11 16:02               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-11 16:19                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-11 19:39               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-11 21:09                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-12  0:13                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-12  4:29                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-12  8:32                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-12 13:30                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13  7:50                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13  9:58                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-13 11:15                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 13:27                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-13 13:45                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 14:32                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-13 16:14                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-13 16:22                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-13 13:22                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-13 13:33                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 14:34                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-13 14:53                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 15:41                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 15:54                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 16:04                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 16:13                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 16:29                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 17:12                                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 17:27                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 18:31                                           ` peterz
2020-08-13 19:13                                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 16:20                                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-13 16:36                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-14 11:54                                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-13 17:09                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-13 17:22                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-14  7:17                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-14 12:15                                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-14 12:48                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-14 13:34                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 14:06                                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-14 18:01                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 23:14                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-14 23:41                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-15  0:43                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-15  3:01                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-15  8:27                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-15 13:03                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-15  8:42                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-15 14:18                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-15 14:23                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-17  8:47                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 18:26                               ` peterz
2020-08-13 18:52                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 22:06                                   ` peterz
2020-08-13 23:23                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 23:59                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-14  8:30                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-14 10:23                                         ` peterz
2020-08-14 15:26                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 14:14                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 16:11                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 17:49                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-14 18:02                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 19:33                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-14 20:41                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 21:52                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-14 23:27                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 23:40                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-16 22:56                                                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-17  8:28                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-17 10:36                                                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-17 22:28                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-18  7:43                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 13:53                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-18 14:43                                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-18 16:13                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-18 16:55                                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-18 17:13                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-18 23:26                                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-19 23:07                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-18 15:02                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 15:45                                                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-18 16:18                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-14 16:19                                           ` peterz
2020-08-14 18:15                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-08-13 13:29                         ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2020-08-13 13:41                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-13 14:22                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-08-09 20:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] rcu/tree: use " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)

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