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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, mingo@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, joel@joelfernandes.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH sl-b 1/6] mm: Add kmem_last_alloc() to return last allocation for memory block
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 09:25:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201207172554.GI2657@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201207090243.GA20765@js1304-desktop>

On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 06:02:53PM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> Hello, Paul.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 04:40:52PM -0800, paulmck@kernel.org wrote:
> > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > 
> > There are kernel facilities such as per-CPU reference counts that give
> > error messages in generic handlers or callbacks, whose messages are
> > unenlightening.  In the case of per-CPU reference-count underflow, this
> > is not a problem when creating a new use of this facility because in that
> > case the bug is almost certainly in the code implementing that new use.
> > However, trouble arises when deploying across many systems, which might
> > exercise corner cases that were not seen during development and testing.
> > Here, it would be really nice to get some kind of hint as to which of
> > several uses the underflow was caused by.
> > 
> > This commit therefore exposes a new kmem_last_alloc() function that
> > takes a pointer to dynamically allocated memory and returns the return
> > address of the call that allocated it.  This pointer can reference the
> > middle of the block as well as the beginning of the block, as needed
> > by things like RCU callback functions and timer handlers that might not
> > know where the beginning of the memory block is.  These functions and
> > handlers can use the return value from kmem_last_alloc() to give the
> > kernel hacker a better hint as to where the problem might lie.
> 
> I agree with exposing allocation caller information to the other
> subsystem to help the debugging. Some suggestions...

Good to hear!  ;-)

> 1. It's better to separate a slab object check (validity check) and
> retrieving the allocation caller. Someone else would want to check
> only a validity. And, it doesn't depend on the debug configuration so
> it's not good to bind it to the debug function.
> 
> kmem_cache_valid_(obj|ptr)
> kmalloc_valid_(obj|ptr)

Here both functions would say "true" for a pointer from kmalloc()?
Or do I need to add a third function that is happy with a pointer from
either source?

I do understand that people who don't want to distinguish could just do
"kmem_cache_valid_ptr(p) || kmalloc_valid_ptr(p)".  However, the two
use cases in the series have no idea whether the pointer they have came
from kmalloc(), kmem_cache_alloc(), or somewhere else entirely, even an
on-stack variable.

Are you asking me to choose between the _obj() and _ptr() suffixes?
If not, please help me understand the distinction.

Do we want "debug" in these names as well?

> 2. rename kmem_last_alloc to ...
> 
> int kmem_cache_debug_alloc_caller(cache, obj, &ret_addr)
> int kmalloc_debug_alloc_caller(obj, &ret_addr)
> 
> or debug_kmem_cache_alloc_caller()
> 
> I think that function name need to include the keyword 'debug' to show
> itself as a debugging facility (enabled at the debugging). And, return
> errno and get caller address by pointer argument.

I am quite happy to add the "debug", but my use cases have no idea
how the pointer was allocated.  In fact, the next version of the
patch will also handle allocator return addresses from vmalloc().

And for kernels without sufficient debug enabled, I need to provide
the name of the slab cache, and this also is to be in the next version.

> 3. If concrete error message is needed, please introduce more functions.
> 
> void *kmalloc_debug_error(errno)

Agreed, in fact, I was planning to have a function that printed out
a suitable error-message continuation to the console for ease-of-use
reasons.  For example, why is the caller deciding how deep the stack
frame is?  ;-)

So something like this?

	void kmalloc_debug_print_provenance(void *ptr);

With the understanding that it will print something helpful regardless
of where ptr came from, within the constraints of the kernel build and
boot options?

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-07 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-05  0:40 [PATCH RFC sl-b] Export return addresses for better diagnostics Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-05  0:40 ` [PATCH sl-b 1/6] mm: Add kmem_last_alloc() to return last allocation for memory block paulmck
2020-12-07  9:02   ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-07 17:25     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-12-08  8:57       ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-08 15:17         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-05  0:40 ` [PATCH sl-b 2/6] mm: Add kmem_last_alloc_errstring() to provide more kmem_last_alloc() info paulmck
2020-12-05  0:40 ` [PATCH sl-b 3/6] rcu: Make call_rcu() print allocation address of double-freed callback paulmck
2020-12-05  0:40 ` [PATCH sl-b 4/6] mm: Create kmem_last_alloc_stack() to provide stack trace in slub paulmck
2020-12-05  0:40 ` [PATCH sl-b 5/6] percpu_ref: Print allocator upon reference-count underflow paulmck
2020-12-05  0:40 ` [PATCH sl-b 6/6] percpu_ref: Print stack trace " paulmck
2020-12-09  1:11 ` [PATCH RFC v2 sl-b] Export return addresses etc. for better diagnostics Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09  1:12   ` [PATCH v2 sl-b 1/5] mm: Add mem_dump_obj() to print source of memory block paulmck
2020-12-09  8:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-09 14:57       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09 17:53         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-09 17:59           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09 17:28     ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-12-09 23:04       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-10 10:48         ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-12-10 19:56           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-10 12:04     ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-10 23:41       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09  1:13   ` [PATCH v2 sl-b 2/5] mm: Make mem_dump_obj() handle NULL and zero-sized pointers paulmck
2020-12-09 17:48     ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-12-10  3:25       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09  1:13   ` [PATCH v2 sl-b 3/5] mm: Make mem_dump_obj() handle vmalloc() memory paulmck
2020-12-09 17:51     ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-12-09 19:39       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-12-09 23:23       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-10 10:49         ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-12-09 19:36     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-12-09 19:42       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-09 20:04         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-12-09  1:13   ` [PATCH v2 sl-b 4/5] rcu: Make call_rcu() print mem_dump_obj() info for double-freed callback paulmck
2020-12-09  1:13   ` [PATCH v2 sl-b 5/5] percpu_ref: Dump mem_dump_obj() info upon reference-count underflow paulmck
2020-12-11  1:19   ` [PATCH RFC v2 sl-b] Export return addresses etc. for better diagnostics Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-11  1:19     ` [PATCH v3 sl-b 1/6] mm: Add mem_dump_obj() to print source of memory block paulmck
2020-12-11  2:22       ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-11  3:33         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-11  3:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-11  6:58             ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-11 16:59               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-12-11  6:54           ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-11  1:19     ` [PATCH v3 sl-b 2/6] mm: Make mem_dump_obj() handle NULL and zero-sized pointers paulmck
2020-12-11  1:20     ` [PATCH v3 sl-b 3/6] mm: Make mem_dump_obj() handle vmalloc() memory paulmck
2020-12-11  1:20     ` [PATCH v3 sl-b 4/6] mm: Make mem_obj_dump() vmalloc() dumps include start and length paulmck
2020-12-11  1:20     ` [PATCH v3 sl-b 5/6] rcu: Make call_rcu() print mem_dump_obj() info for double-freed callback paulmck
2020-12-11  1:20     ` [PATCH v3 sl-b 6/6] percpu_ref: Dump mem_dump_obj() info upon reference-count underflow paulmck

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