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From: "Zhang, Qiang1" <qiang1.zhang@intel.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Zhuo, Qiuxu" <qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	"quic_neeraju@quicinc.com" <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Oleksiy Avramchenko" <oleksiy.avramchenko@sony.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/1] Reduce synchronize_rcu() waiting time
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 00:12:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR11MB5880923368F103D66A44B0CFDA889@PH0PR11MB5880.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEXW_YTRG1y3eCUDtWx_kCzHM0B24bi_qEpoBdjBunW58=b+xA@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > > From: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 6:28 PM
> > > [...]
> > > Subject: [PATCH 1/1] Reduce synchronize_rcu() waiting time
> > >
> > > A call to a synchronize_rcu() can be expensive from time point of view.
> > > Different workloads can be affected by this especially the ones which use this
> > > API in its time critical sections.
> > >
> >
> > This is interesting and meaningful research. ;-)
> >
> > > For example in case of NOCB scenario the wakeme_after_rcu() callback
> > > invocation depends on where in a nocb-list it is located. Below is an example
> > > when it was the last out of ~3600 callbacks:
> >
>
>
>
> Can it be implemented separately as follows?  it seems that the code is simpler
> (only personal opinion)
>
> But I didn't test whether this reduce synchronize_rcu() waiting time
>
>Isn't it broken because you are trying to implement synchronize_rcu()
>on top of a different RCU implementation: tasks-RCU? Or did I miss
>something?
>
>
>Also, I think Vlad is trying to improve the existing synchronize_rcu()
>by shortcutting the wake up of the sleeper (instead of going through
>an async callback which in turn did a wakeup). So he's not changing
>the RCU implementation, he is just making it faster.

Agree,  this is improve the existing synchronize_rcu(),  make synchronize_rcu()
out of nocb control and the wake-up of synchronize_rcu() is realized separately.

Thanks
Zqiang

>
>thanks,
>
> - Joel
>
>
> +static void rcu_poll_wait_gp(struct rcu_tasks *rtp)
> +{
> +       unsigned long gp_snap;
> +
> +       gp_snap = start_poll_synchronize_rcu();
> +       while (!poll_state_synchronize_rcu(gp_snap))
> +               schedule_timeout_idle(1);
> +}
> +
> +void call_rcu_poll(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t func);
> +DEFINE_RCU_TASKS(rcu_poll, rcu_poll_wait_gp, call_rcu_poll,
> +                 "RCU Poll");
> +void call_rcu_poll(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t func)
> +{
> +       call_rcu_tasks_generic(rhp, func, &rcu_poll);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(call_rcu_poll);
> +
> +void synchronize_rcu_poll(void)
> +{
> +       synchronize_rcu_tasks_generic(&rcu_poll);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(synchronize_rcu_poll);
> +
> +static int __init rcu_spawn_poll_kthread(void)
> +{
> +       cblist_init_generic(&rcu_poll);
> +       rcu_poll.gp_sleep = HZ / 10;
> +       rcu_spawn_tasks_kthread_generic(&rcu_poll);
> +       return 0;
> +}
>
> Thanks
> Zqiang
>
>
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >   <...>-29      [001] d..1. 21950.145313: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt
> > > CBs=3613 bl=28
> > > ...
> > >   <...>-29      [001] ..... 21950.152578: rcu_invoke_callback: rcu_preempt
> > > rhp=00000000b2d6dee8 func=__free_vm_area_struct.cfi_jt
> > >   <...>-29      [001] ..... 21950.152579: rcu_invoke_callback: rcu_preempt
> > > rhp=00000000a446f607 func=__free_vm_area_struct.cfi_jt
> > >   <...>-29      [001] ..... 21950.152580: rcu_invoke_callback: rcu_preempt
> > > rhp=00000000a5cab03b func=__free_vm_area_struct.cfi_jt
> > >   <...>-29      [001] ..... 21950.152581: rcu_invoke_callback: rcu_preempt
> > > rhp=0000000013b7e5ee func=__free_vm_area_struct.cfi_jt
> > >   <...>-29      [001] ..... 21950.152582: rcu_invoke_callback: rcu_preempt
> > > rhp=000000000a8ca6f9 func=__free_vm_area_struct.cfi_jt
> > >   <...>-29      [001] ..... 21950.152583: rcu_invoke_callback: rcu_preempt
> > > rhp=000000008f162ca8 func=wakeme_after_rcu.cfi_jt
> > >   <...>-29      [001] d..1. 21950.152625: rcu_batch_end: rcu_preempt CBs-
> > > invoked=3612 idle=....
> > > <snip>
> > >
> >
> > Did the results above tell us that CBs-invoked=3612 during the time 21950.145313 ~ 21950.152625?
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >
> > If possible, may I know the steps, commands, and related parameters to produce the results above?
> > Thank you!
> >
> >Build the kernel with CONFIG_RCU_TRACE configuration. Update your "set_event"
> >file with appropriate traces:
> >
> ><snip>
> >XQ-DQ54:/sys/kernel/tracing # echo rcu:rcu_batch_start rcu:rcu_batch_end rcu:rcu_invoke_callback > set_event
> >
> >XQ-DQ54:/sys/kernel/tracing # cat set_event
> >rcu:rcu_batch_start
> >rcu:rcu_invoke_callback
> >rcu:rcu_batch_end
> >XQ-DQ54:/sys/kernel/tracing #
> ><snip>
> >
> >Collect traces as much as you want: XQ-DQ54:/sys/kernel/tracing # echo 1 > tracing_on; sleep 10; echo 0 > tracing_on
> >Next problem is how to parse it. Of course you will not be able to parse
> >megabytes of traces. For that purpose i use a special C trace parser.
> >If you need an example please let me know i can show here.
> >
> >--
> >Uladzislau Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-28  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-21 10:27 [PATCH 1/1] Reduce synchronize_rcu() waiting time Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-03-21 14:03 ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2023-03-21 15:15   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22  1:49     ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2023-03-22  6:50       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-22 11:21         ` Zhuo, Qiuxu
2023-03-27 11:21     ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-03-27 17:47       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-28  0:14         ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-03-27 21:23       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-28  0:12         ` Zhang, Qiang1 [this message]
2023-03-28  1:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-28  1:32         ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-03-28  1:59           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-28  2:29         ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-28 15:26           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-28 22:14             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-30 15:11               ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-30 19:01                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-30 15:09             ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-30 15:43               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-30 18:58                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-30 19:18                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-30 21:16                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-31 10:55                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-03-31 18:39                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-30 18:57               ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-27 21:48     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-27 21:50       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-28  1:28         ` Zhuo, Qiuxu

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