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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] rcu/nocb: Protect lazy shrinker against concurrent (de-)offloading
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 22:01:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZCCknqnceazfyzvr@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae1cb391-aeed-4587-8d9d-50909c918fb1@paulmck-laptop>

Le Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 03:51:54PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 11:09:08PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > Le Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 04:18:24PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney a écrit :
> > > > @@ -1336,13 +1336,25 @@ lazy_rcu_shrink_scan(struct shrinker *shrink, struct shrink_control *sc)
> > > >  	unsigned long flags;
> > > >  	unsigned long count = 0;
> > > >  
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * Protect against concurrent (de-)offloading. Otherwise nocb locking
> > > > +	 * may be ignored or imbalanced.
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	mutex_lock(&rcu_state.barrier_mutex);
> > > 
> > > I was worried about this possibly leading to out-of-memory deadlock,
> > > but if I recall correctly, the (de-)offloading process never allocates
> > > memory, so this should be OK?
> > 
> > Good point. It _should_ be fine but like you, Joel and Hillf pointed out
> > it's asking for trouble.
> > 
> > We could try Joel's idea to use mutex_trylock() as a best effort, which
> > should be fine as it's mostly uncontended.
> > 
> > The alternative is to force nocb locking and check the offloading state
> > right after. So instead of:
> > 
> > 	rcu_nocb_lock_irqsave(rdp, flags);
> > 	//flush stuff
> > 	rcu_nocb_unlock_irqrestore(rdp, flags);
> > 
> > Have:
> > 
> > 	raw_spin_lock_irqsave(rdp->nocb_lock, flags);
> > 	if (!rcu_rdp_is_offloaded(rdp))
> > 		raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(rdp->nocb_lock, flags);
> > 		continue;
> > 	}
> > 	//flush stuff
> > 	rcu_nocb_unlock_irqrestore(rdp, flags);
> > 
> > But it's not pretty and also disqualifies the last two patches as
> > rcu_nocb_mask can't be iterated safely anymore.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> 
> The mutex_trylock() approach does have the advantage of simplicity,
> and as you say should do well given low contention.
> 
> Which reminds me, what sort of test strategy did you have in mind?
> Memory exhaustion can have surprising effects.

The best I can do is to trigger the count and scan callbacks through
the shrinker debugfs and see if it crashes or not :-)

> 
> > > >  	/* Snapshot count of all CPUs */
> > > >  	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
> > > >  		struct rcu_data *rdp = per_cpu_ptr(&rcu_data, cpu);
> > > > -		int _count = READ_ONCE(rdp->lazy_len);
> > > > +		int _count;
> > > > +
> > > > +		if (!rcu_rdp_is_offloaded(rdp))
> > > > +			continue;
> > > 
> > > If the CPU is offloaded, isn't ->lazy_len guaranteed to be zero?
> > > 
> > > Or can it contain garbage after a de-offloading operation?
> > 
> > If it's deoffloaded, ->lazy_len is indeed (supposed to be) guaranteed to be zero.
> > Bypass is flushed and disabled atomically early on de-offloading and the
> > flush resets ->lazy_len.
> 
> Whew!  At the moment, I don't feel strongly about whether or not
> the following code should (1) read the value, (2) warn on non-zero,
> (3) assume zero without reading, or (4) some other option that is not
> occurring to me.  Your choice!

(2) looks like a good idea!

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-26 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-22 19:44 [PATCH 0/4] rcu/nocb: Shrinker related boring fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-22 19:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] rcu/nocb: Protect lazy shrinker against concurrent (de-)offloading Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-22 23:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-24  0:55     ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-24  1:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-24 22:09     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-24 22:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-26 20:01         ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2023-03-26 21:45           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-29 16:07             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-29 20:45               ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-22 19:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] rcu/nocb: Fix shrinker race against callback enqueuer Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-22 23:19   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-22 19:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] rcu/nocb: Recheck lazy callbacks under the ->nocb_lock from shrinker Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-22 23:21   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-22 19:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu/nocb: Make shrinker to iterate only NOCB CPUs Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-24  0:41   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-29 16:01 [PATCH 0/4 v2] rcu/nocb: Shrinker related boring fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-29 16:02 ` [PATCH 1/4] rcu/nocb: Protect lazy shrinker against concurrent (de-)offloading Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-29 20:44   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-29 21:18     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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