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From: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] docs: add a document about regression handling
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 12:46:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12e09497-a848-b767-88f4-7dabd8360c5e@leemhuis.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdXRoVt_zRBNvugJjYhJnyYbABeCWv9fFRM0r_=s7FYvJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi! I noticed I forgot to reply here:

On 26.01.22 15:28, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:45 PM Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> wrote:
>> +How to create a configuration similar to the one of an older kernel?
>> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> +
>> +Start a known-good kernel and configure the newer Linux version with ``make
>> +olddefconfig``. This makes the kernel's build scripts pick up the configuration
>> +file (the `.config` file) from the running kernel as base for the new one you
>> +are about to compile; afterwards they set all new configuration options to their
>> +default value, which should disable new features that might cause regressions.
> 
> Doing so may actually cause mutations to appear in your .config
> when going back and forth (i.e. when bisecting), interfering with
> the bisection process.

Good point, I knew about this, but hadn't thought of this when writing
the text.

> To avoid that, I usually start bisecting with
> "cp .config <src>/arch/<arch>/configs/bisect_defconfig", and use
> "make bisect_defconfig" in every bisection step. That way all steps
> are reproducible, and unaffected by config mutations.

That's a really cool trick, thx for mentioning it. But I think it's not
needed in the text about regressions and instead better be mentioned in
Documentation/admin-guide/bug-bisect.rst. I hope to sooner or later
improve (rewrite?) that document anyway and will make sure to keep it in
mind for that time.

I wonder if there is a way to make this work without messing in the
source tree? Took a quick look at the sources. It seems to me that it's
possible to "cp .config ~/working.config" and then using "make
KBUILD_DEFCONFIG=~/working.config defconfig" at every bisection step. It
seems to do the trick as well -- but I only tried briefly, so maybe I
might have missed something.

Ciao, Thorsten

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-25 11:44 [PATCH v3 0/2] docs: add a text about regressions to the Linux kernel's documentation Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-01-25 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] docs: add a document about regression handling Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-01-25 23:59   ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-01-26 14:10     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-01-26 17:16       ` Randy Dunlap
2022-01-31 14:22       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-01-26 14:28   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-02 11:46     ` Thorsten Leemhuis [this message]
2022-01-25 11:44 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] docs: regressions.rst: rules of thumb for handling regressions Thorsten Leemhuis

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