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From: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
To: Boris Burkov <boris@bur.io>
Cc: Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux regressions mailing list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	Sergei Trofimovich <slyich@gmail.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Christopher Price <pricechrispy@gmail.com>,
	anand.jain@oracle.com, clm@fb.com, dsterba@suse.com,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [6.2 regression][bisected]discard storm on idle since v6.1-rc8-59-g63a7cb130718 discard=async
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 21:22:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230404192205.GF19619@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230404185138.GB344341@zen>

On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 11:51:51AM -0700, Boris Burkov wrote:
> Our reasonable options, as I see them:
> - back to nodiscard, rely on periodic trims from the OS.

We had that before and it's a fallback in case we can't fix it but still
the problem would persist for anyone enabling async discard so it's only
limiting the impact.

> - leave low iops_limit, drives stay busy unexpectedly long, conclude that
>   that's OK, and communicate the tuning/measurement options better.

This does not sound user friendly, tuning should be possible but not
required by default. We already have enough other things that users need
to decide and in this case I don't know if there's enough information to
even make a good decision upfront.

> - set a high iops_limit (e.g. 1000) drives will get back to idle faster.
> - change an unset iops_limit to mean truly unlimited async discard, set
>   that as the default, and anyone who cares to meter it can set an
>   iops_limit.
> 
> The regression here is in drive idle time due to modest discard getting
> metered out over minutes rather than dealt with relatively quickly. So
> I would favor the unlimited async discard mode and will send a patch to
> that effect which we can discuss.

Can we do options 3 and 4, i.e. set a high iops so that the batch gets
processed faster and (4) that there's the manual override to drop the
limit completely?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-04 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20 22:40 [6.2 regression][bisected]discard storm on idle since v6.1-rc8-59-g63a7cb130718 discard=async Christopher Price
2023-03-21 21:26 ` Josef Bacik
2023-03-22  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-03-23 22:26     ` Sergei Trofimovich
2023-04-04 10:49       ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-04 16:04         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-04 16:20           ` Roman Mamedov
2023-04-04 16:27             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-04 23:37               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-04-04 18:15           ` Chris Mason
2023-04-04 18:51             ` Boris Burkov
2023-04-04 19:22               ` David Sterba [this message]
2023-04-04 19:39                 ` Boris Burkov
2023-04-05  8:17                   ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-10  2:03               ` Michael Bromilow
2023-04-11 17:52                 ` David Sterba
2023-04-11 18:15                   ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-04 19:08             ` Sergei Trofimovich
2023-04-05  6:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-05 12:01               ` Chris Mason
2023-04-04 18:23         ` Boris Burkov
2023-04-04 19:12           ` Sergei Trofimovich
     [not found] <Y/+n1wS/4XAH7X1p@nz>
2023-03-02  8:04 ` Linux regression tracking #adding (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-04 10:52   ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-04-21 13:56   ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
     [not found] ` <94cf49d0-fa2d-cc2c-240e-222706d69eb3@oracle.com>
     [not found]   ` <20230302105406.2cd367f7@nz>
2023-03-15 11:44     ` Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-03-15 16:34       ` Sergei Trofimovich

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